[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2412, Issue 1
Betsy Love
truenorthintl at me.com
Fri Aug 3 07:26:24 PDT 2012
I have heard from the owner who found me here! Hull number 475. Apollo.
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> 1. Re: Mast brace (chris123)
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> From: chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>
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> My guess is the reverse of depressions. So tension marks where the
> deck has been pulled upwards?
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> /ch
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> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:22 PM, George Dinwiddie
> <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> wrote:
>> Betsy,
>>
>> Can you describe what you mean by a "raised circle?"
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> Hi Clayton,
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>
> I have a couple of headsails I've been thinking of selling. Are you looking for tape luff or hanks? sails are in Everett marina.
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>
> Glenn
> Dolce 31
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> From: "Clayton Zimmerman" <cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com>
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> This is a call out to any of ya'll that have old Alberg sails sitting around. I'm planning to take "Tanager" offshore in a year or two and it'd be nice to have a few older sails as spares. Not interested in winning any races, just looking for some cloth to throw up in the trade winds. Happy to pay a fair price.
> Thanks,Clayton ZimmermanS/V TanagerPort Angeles, WA
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> From: Betsy Love <truenorthintl at me.com>
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> The cabin liner under the mast is not level. There is a significant bulge. Can you recommend the best A-30 surveyor and yard for working on such things?
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>> 2. Re: Mast brace (George Dinwiddie)
>> 3. Re: Public-List Digest, Vol 2410, Issue 1 (Richard Hansen)
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>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:04:00 -0400
>> From: Betsy Love <truenorthintl at me.com>
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>> Hi I'm in the market for an Alberg 30 and found a 1971 that looks promising. There are two concerns I have before the surveyor has even had a look but I'm hoping someone here can inform me. It looks like there is mast compression problem because there is a raised circle approximately under the mast in the cabin ceiling. I'm pretty sure this is going to be expensive to fix but how expensive and can you recommend someone to do the work? There also is what I think is a separation of the port deck from the support beam. The reason is that the deck squeeks when it is walked upon and looking underneath, there is a raised circle underneath the stanchion that has been covered with epoxy but I can see dark places underneath the epoxy. Any advice will be appreciated. Bets Love
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>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:22:35 -0400
>> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
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>> Betsy,
>>
>> Can you describe what you mean by a "raised circle?"
>>
>> - George
>>
>> On 8/2/12 7:04 PM, Betsy Love wrote:
>>> Hi I'm in the market for an Alberg 30 and found a 1971 that looks
>>> promising. There are two concerns I have before the surveyor has even
>>> had a look but I'm hoping someone here can inform me. It looks like
>>> there is mast compression problem because there is a raised circle
>>> approximately under the mast in the cabin ceiling. I'm pretty sure
>>> this is going to be expensive to fix but how expensive and can you
>>> recommend someone to do the work? There also is what I think is a
>>> separation of the port deck from the support beam. The reason is that
>>> the deck squeeks when it is walked upon and looking underneath, there
>>> is a raised circle underneath the stanchion that has been covered
>>> with epoxy but I can see dark places underneath the epoxy. Any advice
>>> will be appreciated. Bets Love
>>
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>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
>> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
>> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
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>> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 22:15:54 -0400
>> From: Richard Hansen <rdhansenjr at gmail.com>
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>> I would like to add my name to both lists (Rudder Shoe and Gudgeon set).
>> Richard Hansen, rdhansenjr at gmail.com
>> Sun Spur 3064235
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>>> 1. Re: Rudder Shoe Project Update (Darcy Haldeman (DHMH))
>>> 2. Re: Rudder Shoe Project Update (j t wittbold)
>>> 3. info request (chris123)
>>> 4. Re: Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner of
>>> Antares 1967 A30. (Jeremy Brown)
>>> 5. inspecting A-30 (chris123)
>>> 6. Re: inspecting A-30 (Jeffrey Randall)
>>> 7. Re: Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner of
>>> Antares 1967 A30. (Mike Lehman)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:44:12 -0400
>>> From: "Darcy Haldeman (DHMH)" <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe Project Update
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>>> Please add me to the list for both. Darcy Haldeman, "Dorian Blair" #152
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Peter McEvoy <peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>>
>>>> Been under the radar mostly because, at the moment, this project is a
>>>> waiting game. I am working with Mike Lehman to use one of his shoes to do
>>>> the castings. He recently used one of his extras in a casting workshop and
>>>> is waiting for its safe return, whereupon we will get into gear. Fret ye
>>>> not, we will keep you updated!
>>>>
>>>> For the time being, it's looking like we will just cast the SHOES, and not
>>>> the gudgeons because, as yet, we do not have any gudgeons or gudgeon
>>>> dimensions to work from to make a casting pattern. Don't worry, we'll get
>>>> there eventually. Promise.
>>>>
>>>> I will probably do the castings myself to reduce costs. My guess is that
>>>> that the shoes will run around $100-150 each, but keep in mind this is a
>>>> guessing game right now. I'll keep it as cheap as possible and can offer a
>>>> better estimate once I have the shoe in hand.
>>>>
>>>> Please be patient- just as sometimes there is no wind, sometimes stuff gets
>>>> shipped USPS.
>>>>
>>>> Updated List!
>>>> Rudder Shoe:
>>>> Bill Ydel - wcydel at gmail.com
>>>> Mike Lehman - sail_505 at hotmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> Brian Curry - brian_curry at hotmail.com
>>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>>> Jon Budington - jon at globalprinting.com
>>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
>>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>>> Gordon white
>>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>>
>>>> Gudgeon Sets:
>>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>>> Michael Connolly #133 - crufone at comcast.net
>>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com (Interested in the two part
>>>> gudgeon and pintle version)
>>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>>> Gordon white
>>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>>
>>>> -Pete
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:00:59 +0000 (GMT)
>>> From: j t wittbold <johnnywittbold at mac.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe Project Update
>>> Message-ID: <a73aef76-8c4f-c711-dd16-ec73c643463c at me.com>
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>>> Same for me...
>>> Todd Wittbold, johnnywittbold at mac.com
>>> #207 (Tortue)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> J T Wittbold
>>> johnnywittbold at mac.com
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 03:44 PM, "Darcy Haldeman (DHMH)" <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please add me to the list for both. Darcy Haldeman, "Dorian Blair" #152
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Peter McEvoy <peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>>
>>>> Been under the radar mostly because, at the moment, this project is a
>>>> waiting game. I am working with Mike Lehman to use one of his shoes to do
>>>> the castings. He recently used one of his extras in a casting workshop and
>>>> is waiting for its safe return, whereupon we will get into gear. Fret ye
>>>> not, we will keep you updated!
>>>>
>>>> For the time being, it's looking like we will just cast the SHOES, and not
>>>> the gudgeons because, as yet, we do not have any gudgeons or gudgeon
>>>> dimensions to work from to make a casting pattern. Don't worry, we'll get
>>>> there eventually. Promise.
>>>>
>>>> I will probably do the castings myself to reduce costs. My guess is that
>>>> that the shoes will run around $100-150 each, but keep in mind this is a
>>>> guessing game right now. I'll keep it as cheap as possible and can offer a
>>>> better estimate once I have the shoe in hand.
>>>>
>>>> Please be patient- just as sometimes there is no wind, sometimes stuff gets
>>>> shipped USPS.
>>>>
>>>> Updated List!
>>>> Rudder Shoe:
>>>> Bill Ydel - wcydel at gmail.com
>>>> Mike Lehman - sail_505 at hotmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> Brian Curry - brian_curry at hotmail.com
>>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>>> Jon Budington - jon at globalprinting.com
>>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
>>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>>> Gordon white
>>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>>
>>>> Gudgeon Sets:
>>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>>> Michael Connolly #133 - crufone at comcast.net
>>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com (Interested in the two part
>>>> gudgeon and pintle version)
>>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>>> Gordon white
>>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>>
>>>> -Pete
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:06:14 -0400
>>> From: chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Subject: [Public-List] info request
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>>> Greets:
>>>
>>> Going to take a look at a mid 60's Alberg 30 tomorrow and was
>>> wondering if there are any known issues with these years of production
>>> that I should be looking for. What I mean is this, are there known
>>> issues with these boats of the class year specifically. All the usual
>>> stuff I can find...so just wondering if there is something else I
>>> should be looking for.
>>>
>>> Best and kind regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> /ch
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:33:50 -0600 (MDT)
>>> From: Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>>> owner of Antares 1967 A30.
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> That is a very cool mast support!
>>> I'm very torn between replacing the beam and bracing it, if I'm replacing the beam is there anything else I should do at the same time in regards to the mast step/bolts.
>>> the boat builder/repair guy I work with looked at it today, and he said it looks like the mast is leaning to port slightly. he'll be glassing in the new bulkhead for the anchor locker, and repairing the broken tabbing all around over the next week or two.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if I remove the beam, and loosen the rigging, how do I tell when the deck is where it should be?
>>>
>>> Second, where should I position the jacks to raise the deck when the beam is out.
>>>
>>> Third, how accurate do I need to be in terms of leveling the mast step, and how do I level the step/deck to correct the dip in the cabin top aft of the beam, I'm unsure if this dip is something I can get rid of since the deck looks good on top, and I'm worried that pushing it up may distort the deck if some internal repairs were done from the bottom.
>>>
>>> If I just raise the deck, will it get close enough that I can then true it up the rest of the way with the rigging?
>>> Can anybody recommend a good rigger in the PNW? My rigging has to be inspected by a rigger within a year of the survey according to the survey, so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
>>>
>>> Where should the mast be positioned on the step, I noticed mine is pushed all the way aft.
>>>
>>> Is there any other reason I'd need to drop my mast in the next few years, or can I leave it until I have a more amenable place to do it(it will cost me close to 1000$ at my current marina, but I can use a mast crane elsewhere for free in a year or so, and could do the mast beam properly and more easily at the same time if it's not going to fail under load in the near future, or damage the deck).
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "LAF" <reefed.main at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:09:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner of Antares 1967 A30.
>>>
>>> George and all,
>>> Here is a link to images of the SS mast support I made.
>>> http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w386/NanoByTheSea/Alberg%2030%20SS%20Mast%20Support/
>>> I explained how I did this in an earlier email, but if there are any
>>> questions let me know.
>>> LAF
>>> SV Avalon
>>> *Slan Abhaile*, Gaelic for Safe journey home
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, George Dinwiddie
>>> <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/25/12 1:14 PM, LAF wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure how to send pics so if you want to send your email we could
>>>>> connect that way. Unless another option is presented.
>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Is it preferred to post a link to an image hosted elsewhere if one is
>>>>>> needed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You can send pictures to me, and I'll be glad to post them on
>>>> http://alberg30.org/**maintenance/disorganized/<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/>or, if you'd prefer, I can give you a login to
>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/**gallery/ <http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/> for
>>>> you to post your own.
>>>>
>>>> - George
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ----------
>>>> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
>>>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
>>>> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
>>>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
>>>> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:51:44 -0400
>>> From: chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Subject: [Public-List] inspecting A-30
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAGPHAP2wHRpGzQcOkQpLa2r6Nh58bkdLG+C6s+y+Mn6kTQDgQw at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Greets:
>>>
>>> Sure hope this is not a double post but the other one did not seem to
>>> make it to the list, or perhaps moderated.
>>>
>>> Was wondering, Im going to take a look at a mid to late 60's A-30
>>> tomorrow and was wondering if there is anything specific to that
>>> period of production that I should look at. Im familiar with
>>> inspecting sailboats as Ive looked at far to many and owned a few. No
>>> issues there. Just wondering out loud is there is something specific
>>> on these vessels of this vintage that I should be looking for.
>>>
>>> Best and kind regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> /ch
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:00:13 -0400
>>> From: Jeffrey Randall <jcrandall1956 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] inspecting A-30
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAKgd6F+hBSOSqj5QxxUhPWL_zJzzsRyVfC_qWsdg8_tuH2Kbcg at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Welcome Chris,
>>> Consider the A-30 website as well as John Vigor's book "20 pocket cruisers
>>> to sail around the world". He covers the beam issue thoroughly
>>>
>>> Jeff Randall
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 PM, chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greets:
>>>>
>>>> Sure hope this is not a double post but the other one did not seem to
>>>> make it to the list, or perhaps moderated.
>>>>
>>>> Was wondering, Im going to take a look at a mid to late 60's A-30
>>>> tomorrow and was wondering if there is anything specific to that
>>>> period of production that I should look at. Im familiar with
>>>> inspecting sailboats as Ive looked at far to many and owned a few. No
>>>> issues there. Just wondering out loud is there is something specific
>>>> on these vessels of this vintage that I should be looking for.
>>>>
>>>> Best and kind regards
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> /ch
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Randall
>>> JCMedical
>>> 603-498-5574
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:21:17 -0400
>>> From: Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>>> owner of Antares 1967 A30.
>>> Message-ID: <BAY170-DS351A1DD904A3CF5FB98985B7C40 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> If you are removing the beam, I would suggest you also remove the mast.
>>> I would not repair the tabbing until the beam is jacked back to position.
>>> The door to the forward cabin will give you an idea of how far to jack up
>>> the beam. The door should close.
>>> The mast should be position as far forward on the mast step as possible,
>>> even to the point where you could trim the washers. This positions the mast
>>> more over the beam and also helpos to reduce weather helm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Lehman
>>>
>>>> <((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeremy Brown
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:33 PM
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner
>>> of Antares 1967 A30.
>>>
>>> That is a very cool mast support!
>>> I'm very torn between replacing the beam and bracing it, if I'm replacing
>>> the beam is there anything else I should do at the same time in regards to
>>> the mast step/bolts.
>>> the boat builder/repair guy I work with looked at it today, and he said it
>>> looks like the mast is leaning to port slightly. he'll be glassing in the
>>> new bulkhead for the anchor locker, and repairing the broken tabbing all
>>> around over the next week or two.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if I remove the beam, and loosen the rigging, how do I tell
>>> when the deck is where it should be?
>>>
>>> Second, where should I position the jacks to raise the deck when the beam is
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Third, how accurate do I need to be in terms of leveling the mast step, and
>>> how do I level the step/deck to correct the dip in the cabin top aft of the
>>> beam, I'm unsure if this dip is something I can get rid of since the deck
>>> looks good on top, and I'm worried that pushing it up may distort the deck
>>> if some internal repairs were done from the bottom.
>>>
>>> If I just raise the deck, will it get close enough that I can then true it
>>> up the rest of the way with the rigging?
>>> Can anybody recommend a good rigger in the PNW? My rigging has to be
>>> inspected by a rigger within a year of the survey according to the survey,
>>> so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
>>>
>>> Where should the mast be positioned on the step, I noticed mine is pushed
>>> all the way aft.
>>>
>>> Is there any other reason I'd need to drop my mast in the next few years, or
>>> can I leave it until I have a more amenable place to do it(it will cost me
>>> close to 1000$ at my current marina, but I can use a mast crane elsewhere
>>> for free in a year or so, and could do the mast beam properly and more
>>> easily at the same time if it's not going to fail under load in the near
>>> future, or damage the deck).
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "LAF" <reefed.main at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:09:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner
>>> of Antares 1967 A30.
>>>
>>> George and all,
>>> Here is a link to images of the SS mast support I made.
>>> http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w386/NanoByTheSea/Alberg%2030%20SS%20Mast%20Support/
>>> I explained how I did this in an earlier email, but if there are any
>>> questions let me know.
>>> LAF
>>> SV Avalon
>>> *Slan Abhaile*, Gaelic for Safe journey home
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, George Dinwiddie
>>> <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/25/12 1:14 PM, LAF wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure how to send pics so if you want to send your email we could
>>>>> connect that way. Unless another option is presented.
>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Is it preferred to post a link to an image hosted elsewhere if one is
>>>>>> needed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You can send pictures to me, and I'll be glad to post them on
>>>> http://alberg30.org/**maintenance/disorganized/<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/>or,
>>>> if you'd prefer, I can give you a login to
>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/**gallery/ <http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/> for
>>>> you to post your own.
>>>>
>>>> - George
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ----------
>>>> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
>>>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
>>>> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
>>>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
>>>> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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