[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2411, Issue 3
Mike Lehman
sail_505 at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 3 06:46:59 PDT 2012
Where are you? Do you know the hull number?
Mike Lehman
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From: Betsy Love
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To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2411, Issue 3
The cabin liner under the mast is not level. There is a significant bulge.
Can you recommend the best A-30 surveyor and yard for working on such
things?
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> From: Betsy Love <truenorthintl at me.com>
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> Hi I'm in the market for an Alberg 30 and found a 1971 that looks
> promising. There are two concerns I have before the surveyor has even had
> a look but I'm hoping someone here can inform me. It looks like there is
> mast compression problem because there is a raised circle approximately
> under the mast in the cabin ceiling. I'm pretty sure this is going to be
> expensive to fix but how expensive and can you recommend someone to do the
> work? There also is what I think is a separation of the port deck from
> the support beam. The reason is that the deck squeeks when it is walked
> upon and looking underneath, there is a raised circle underneath the
> stanchion that has been covered with epoxy but I can see dark places
> underneath the epoxy. Any advice will be appreciated. Bets Love
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:22:35 -0400
> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Mast brace
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> Betsy,
>
> Can you describe what you mean by a "raised circle?"
>
> - George
>
> On 8/2/12 7:04 PM, Betsy Love wrote:
>> Hi I'm in the market for an Alberg 30 and found a 1971 that looks
>> promising. There are two concerns I have before the surveyor has even
>> had a look but I'm hoping someone here can inform me. It looks like
>> there is mast compression problem because there is a raised circle
>> approximately under the mast in the cabin ceiling. I'm pretty sure
>> this is going to be expensive to fix but how expensive and can you
>> recommend someone to do the work? There also is what I think is a
>> separation of the port deck from the support beam. The reason is that
>> the deck squeeks when it is walked upon and looking underneath, there
>> is a raised circle underneath the stanchion that has been covered
>> with epoxy but I can see dark places underneath the epoxy. Any advice
>> will be appreciated. Bets Love
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 22:15:54 -0400
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> I would like to add my name to both lists (Rudder Shoe and Gudgeon set).
> Richard Hansen, rdhansenjr at gmail.com
> Sun Spur 3064235
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>> 1. Re: Rudder Shoe Project Update (Darcy Haldeman (DHMH))
>> 2. Re: Rudder Shoe Project Update (j t wittbold)
>> 3. info request (chris123)
>> 4. Re: Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner of
>> Antares 1967 A30. (Jeremy Brown)
>> 5. inspecting A-30 (chris123)
>> 6. Re: inspecting A-30 (Jeffrey Randall)
>> 7. Re: Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner of
>> Antares 1967 A30. (Mike Lehman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:44:12 -0400
>> From: "Darcy Haldeman (DHMH)" <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe Project Update
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>> Please add me to the list for both. Darcy Haldeman, "Dorian Blair" #152
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Peter McEvoy
>> <peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>
>>> Been under the radar mostly because, at the moment, this project is a
>>> waiting game. I am working with Mike Lehman to use one of his shoes to
>>> do
>>> the castings. He recently used one of his extras in a casting workshop
>>> and
>>> is waiting for its safe return, whereupon we will get into gear. Fret ye
>>> not, we will keep you updated!
>>>
>>> For the time being, it's looking like we will just cast the SHOES, and
>>> not
>>> the gudgeons because, as yet, we do not have any gudgeons or gudgeon
>>> dimensions to work from to make a casting pattern. Don't worry, we'll
>>> get
>>> there eventually. Promise.
>>>
>>> I will probably do the castings myself to reduce costs. My guess is that
>>> that the shoes will run around $100-150 each, but keep in mind this is a
>>> guessing game right now. I'll keep it as cheap as possible and can offer
>>> a
>>> better estimate once I have the shoe in hand.
>>>
>>> Please be patient- just as sometimes there is no wind, sometimes stuff
>>> gets
>>> shipped USPS.
>>>
>>> Updated List!
>>> Rudder Shoe:
>>> Bill Ydel - wcydel at gmail.com
>>> Mike Lehman - sail_505 at hotmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> Brian Curry - brian_curry at hotmail.com
>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>> Jon Budington - jon at globalprinting.com
>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>> Gordon white
>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>
>>> Gudgeon Sets:
>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>> Michael Connolly #133 - crufone at comcast.net
>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com (Interested in the two part
>>> gudgeon and pintle version)
>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>> Gordon white
>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>
>>> -Pete
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>> Please support them.
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:00:59 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: j t wittbold <johnnywittbold at mac.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe Project Update
>> Message-ID: <a73aef76-8c4f-c711-dd16-ec73c643463c at me.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> Same for me...
>> Todd Wittbold, johnnywittbold at mac.com
>> #207 (Tortue)
>>
>> Thanks!
>> J T Wittbold
>> johnnywittbold at mac.com
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 03:44 PM, "Darcy Haldeman (DHMH)"
>> <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Please add me to the list for both. Darcy Haldeman, "Dorian Blair" #152
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Peter McEvoy
>> <peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>
>>> Been under the radar mostly because, at the moment, this project is a
>>> waiting game. I am working with Mike Lehman to use one of his shoes to
>>> do
>>> the castings. He recently used one of his extras in a casting workshop
>>> and
>>> is waiting for its safe return, whereupon we will get into gear. Fret ye
>>> not, we will keep you updated!
>>>
>>> For the time being, it's looking like we will just cast the SHOES, and
>>> not
>>> the gudgeons because, as yet, we do not have any gudgeons or gudgeon
>>> dimensions to work from to make a casting pattern. Don't worry, we'll
>>> get
>>> there eventually. Promise.
>>>
>>> I will probably do the castings myself to reduce costs. My guess is that
>>> that the shoes will run around $100-150 each, but keep in mind this is a
>>> guessing game right now. I'll keep it as cheap as possible and can offer
>>> a
>>> better estimate once I have the shoe in hand.
>>>
>>> Please be patient- just as sometimes there is no wind, sometimes stuff
>>> gets
>>> shipped USPS.
>>>
>>> Updated List!
>>> Rudder Shoe:
>>> Bill Ydel - wcydel at gmail.com
>>> Mike Lehman - sail_505 at hotmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> Brian Curry - brian_curry at hotmail.com
>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>> Jon Budington - jon at globalprinting.com
>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>> Gordon white
>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>
>>> Gudgeon Sets:
>>> Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>>> David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com
>>> Michael Connolly #133 - crufone at comcast.net
>>> Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>>> James Almond - okeebc at gmail.com
>>> Clayton Zimmerman - cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
>>> Jason ssteen - mpcylinderheads at gmail.com (Interested in the two part
>>> gudgeon and pintle version)
>>> Don Lang - potatosailor at yahoo.com
>>> Gordon White - gewhite at crosslink.net
>>> Chuck Thomas - thomascwcj at bellsouth.net
>>> Mark Dietrich - mrkdtrch at yahoo.com
>>> Joseph Balderson - joebinc at gmail.com
>>> Jeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com
>>> James McRury - jdmcrury at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Rick Leach - rixquik at yahoo.com
>>> Dana Shafie - Dana.shafie at verizon.net
>>> LAF "Avalon" #309 - reefed.main at gmail.com
>>> Bob Bounds - bobbounds at comcast.net
>>> (Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com TENTATIVE)
>>> Hanrahan, Joseph M" <joseph_hanrahan at merck.com>
>>> Gordon white
>>> Dan Sternglass - dans at stmktg.com
>>> Bill Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com>
>>> Jim Allocco - jamesallocco at gmail.com
>>> "Ross Horton" <rosshorton at comcast.net>
>>> Daniel Sternglass <dans at stmktg.com>
>>> Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
>>>
>>> -Pete
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:06:14 -0400
>> From: chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: [Public-List] info request
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>> Greets:
>>
>> Going to take a look at a mid 60's Alberg 30 tomorrow and was
>> wondering if there are any known issues with these years of production
>> that I should be looking for. What I mean is this, are there known
>> issues with these boats of the class year specifically. All the usual
>> stuff I can find...so just wondering if there is something else I
>> should be looking for.
>>
>> Best and kind regards
>>
>> --
>> /ch
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:33:50 -0600 (MDT)
>> From: Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>> owner of Antares 1967 A30.
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <1116438752.21095507.1343788430723.JavaMail.root at cds015.dcs.int.inet>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> That is a very cool mast support!
>> I'm very torn between replacing the beam and bracing it, if I'm replacing
>> the beam is there anything else I should do at the same time in regards
>> to the mast step/bolts.
>> the boat builder/repair guy I work with looked at it today, and he said
>> it looks like the mast is leaning to port slightly. he'll be glassing in
>> the new bulkhead for the anchor locker, and repairing the broken tabbing
>> all around over the next week or two.
>>
>> I'm wondering if I remove the beam, and loosen the rigging, how do I tell
>> when the deck is where it should be?
>>
>> Second, where should I position the jacks to raise the deck when the beam
>> is out.
>>
>> Third, how accurate do I need to be in terms of leveling the mast step,
>> and how do I level the step/deck to correct the dip in the cabin top aft
>> of the beam, I'm unsure if this dip is something I can get rid of since
>> the deck looks good on top, and I'm worried that pushing it up may
>> distort the deck if some internal repairs were done from the bottom.
>>
>> If I just raise the deck, will it get close enough that I can then true
>> it up the rest of the way with the rigging?
>> Can anybody recommend a good rigger in the PNW? My rigging has to be
>> inspected by a rigger within a year of the survey according to the
>> survey, so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
>>
>> Where should the mast be positioned on the step, I noticed mine is pushed
>> all the way aft.
>>
>> Is there any other reason I'd need to drop my mast in the next few years,
>> or can I leave it until I have a more amenable place to do it(it will
>> cost me close to 1000$ at my current marina, but I can use a mast crane
>> elsewhere for free in a year or so, and could do the mast beam properly
>> and more easily at the same time if it's not going to fail under load in
>> the near future, or damage the deck).
>>
>>
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LAF" <reefed.main at gmail.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:09:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>> owner of Antares 1967 A30.
>>
>> George and all,
>> Here is a link to images of the SS mast support I made.
>> http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w386/NanoByTheSea/Alberg%2030%20SS%20Mast%20Support/
>> I explained how I did this in an earlier email, but if there are any
>> questions let me know.
>> LAF
>> SV Avalon
>> *Slan Abhaile*, Gaelic for Safe journey home
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, George Dinwiddie
>> <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/25/12 1:14 PM, LAF wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> I am not sure how to send pics so if you want to send your email we
>>> could
>>>> connect that way. Unless another option is presented.
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Is it preferred to post a link to an image hosted elsewhere if one is
>>>>> needed?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> You can send pictures to me, and I'll be glad to post them on
>>> http://alberg30.org/**maintenance/disorganized/<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/>or,
>>> if you'd prefer, I can give you a login to
>>> http://www.alberg30.org/**gallery/ <http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/>
>>> for
>>> you to post your own.
>>>
>>> - George
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ----------
>>> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
>>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
>>> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
>>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
>>> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Slan Abhaile, Gaelic for Safe journey home
>> Phone 360-680-1233
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:51:44 -0400
>> From: chris123 <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: [Public-List] inspecting A-30
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>>
>> Greets:
>>
>> Sure hope this is not a double post but the other one did not seem to
>> make it to the list, or perhaps moderated.
>>
>> Was wondering, Im going to take a look at a mid to late 60's A-30
>> tomorrow and was wondering if there is anything specific to that
>> period of production that I should look at. Im familiar with
>> inspecting sailboats as Ive looked at far to many and owned a few. No
>> issues there. Just wondering out loud is there is something specific
>> on these vessels of this vintage that I should be looking for.
>>
>> Best and kind regards
>>
>> --
>> /ch
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:00:13 -0400
>> From: Jeffrey Randall <jcrandall1956 at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] inspecting A-30
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>> Welcome Chris,
>> Consider the A-30 website as well as John Vigor's book "20 pocket
>> cruisers
>> to sail around the world". He covers the beam issue thoroughly
>>
>> Jeff Randall
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 PM, chris123
>> <chris.herrnberger at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Greets:
>>>
>>> Sure hope this is not a double post but the other one did not seem to
>>> make it to the list, or perhaps moderated.
>>>
>>> Was wondering, Im going to take a look at a mid to late 60's A-30
>>> tomorrow and was wondering if there is anything specific to that
>>> period of production that I should look at. Im familiar with
>>> inspecting sailboats as Ive looked at far to many and owned a few. No
>>> issues there. Just wondering out loud is there is something specific
>>> on these vessels of this vintage that I should be looking for.
>>>
>>> Best and kind regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> /ch
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Jeff Randall
>> JCMedical
>> 603-498-5574
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:21:17 -0400
>> From: Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>> owner of Antares 1967 A30.
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>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> If you are removing the beam, I would suggest you also remove the mast.
>> I would not repair the tabbing until the beam is jacked back to position.
>> The door to the forward cabin will give you an idea of how far to jack up
>> the beam. The door should close.
>> The mast should be position as far forward on the mast step as possible,
>> even to the point where you could trim the washers. This positions the
>> mast
>> more over the beam and also helpos to reduce weather helm.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Lehman
>>
>>> <((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>`?.??.???`?.?><((((?>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeremy Brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:33 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>> owner
>> of Antares 1967 A30.
>>
>> That is a very cool mast support!
>> I'm very torn between replacing the beam and bracing it, if I'm replacing
>> the beam is there anything else I should do at the same time in regards
>> to
>> the mast step/bolts.
>> the boat builder/repair guy I work with looked at it today, and he said
>> it
>> looks like the mast is leaning to port slightly. he'll be glassing in
>> the
>> new bulkhead for the anchor locker, and repairing the broken tabbing all
>> around over the next week or two.
>>
>> I'm wondering if I remove the beam, and loosen the rigging, how do I tell
>> when the deck is where it should be?
>>
>> Second, where should I position the jacks to raise the deck when the beam
>> is
>> out.
>>
>> Third, how accurate do I need to be in terms of leveling the mast step,
>> and
>> how do I level the step/deck to correct the dip in the cabin top aft of
>> the
>> beam, I'm unsure if this dip is something I can get rid of since the deck
>> looks good on top, and I'm worried that pushing it up may distort the
>> deck
>> if some internal repairs were done from the bottom.
>>
>> If I just raise the deck, will it get close enough that I can then true
>> it
>> up the rest of the way with the rigging?
>> Can anybody recommend a good rigger in the PNW? My rigging has to be
>> inspected by a rigger within a year of the survey according to the
>> survey,
>> so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.
>>
>> Where should the mast be positioned on the step, I noticed mine is pushed
>> all the way aft.
>>
>> Is there any other reason I'd need to drop my mast in the next few years,
>> or
>> can I leave it until I have a more amenable place to do it(it will cost
>> me
>> close to 1000$ at my current marina, but I can use a mast crane elsewhere
>> for free in a year or so, and could do the mast beam properly and more
>> easily at the same time if it's not going to fail under load in the near
>> future, or damage the deck).
>>
>>
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LAF" <reefed.main at gmail.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:09:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new
>> owner
>> of Antares 1967 A30.
>>
>> George and all,
>> Here is a link to images of the SS mast support I made.
>> http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w386/NanoByTheSea/Alberg%2030%20SS%20Mast%20Support/
>> I explained how I did this in an earlier email, but if there are any
>> questions let me know.
>> LAF
>> SV Avalon
>> *Slan Abhaile*, Gaelic for Safe journey home
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, George Dinwiddie
>> <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/25/12 1:14 PM, LAF wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> I am not sure how to send pics so if you want to send your email we
>>> could
>>>> connect that way. Unless another option is presented.
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Is it preferred to post a link to an image hosted elsewhere if one is
>>>>> needed?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> You can send pictures to me, and I'll be glad to post them on
>>> http://alberg30.org/**maintenance/disorganized/<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/>or,
>>> if you'd prefer, I can give you a login to
>>> http://www.alberg30.org/**gallery/ <http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/>
>>> for
>>> you to post your own.
>>>
>>> - George
>>>
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>>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
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>>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
>>> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
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>>
>>
>> --
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