[Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??

Fri Mar 9 09:25:32 PST 2012

I had a 3000 in college - the single most unreliable car I ever owner...but 
fun as hell to drive. I got 7 tickets with one stop - I had to explain to 
the judge why I needed to keep my license.

TODAY, my car of choice would be a Honda S2000 - highest HP/cc of any 
normally aspirated production car in the world - red line...9000 RPM. Man 
could I rack up some fines with that car! And Honda reliability to boot.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gordon Laco
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:19 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??

Hi John -

My Dad had a Healy 3000.  He sold it when my younger brother was born.  I
was only seven years old but do remember wishing he'd keep it till I could
drive it...

They're really expensive now...

G

On 09/03/12 12:13 PM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> When I had my 30 I asked North about the Spin staysl on the A30's 
> sailplan.
>
> They said, don't use it - the deck is unsupported and sooner or later 
> you'll
> keep it up for too long, go over a wave and pop the deck.
>
> As for affixing a storm jib, double forget about it unless you plan to do
> some reengineering.
>
> As for the MGB Gord, sweet, though I prefer the Healy 3000 III or the XK
> 150 - just a personal thing.
>
> But the Miata is proof that a sports car can be made practical & reliable
> and handle well - pity it took the Japanese to figure it out for us ; )
> Wonder what Mazda could do with a reissue/reliable 3000 or XK.
>
> That would be something to behold.
>
> ATB
>
> John
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby 
> Brochure??
>
>
>> Hello Don -
>>
>> You're correct, the issues between the staysail and the spinnaker will 
>> get
>> worse if the intermediate sail is set on the forestay as would be the 
>> case
>> if a smaller jib were used as a spinnaker staysail.  The thing is if you
>> get
>> the staysail's luff closer to the 'chute, that's not a good thing.
>>
>> Back in the early '60's people were playing with divided foresail
>> combinations but the practice has died out.  In very large boats it can
>> work
>> but generally not in boats under 40'.
>>
>> Ah, the old Whitby Folkboat vs International Folkboat thing.  Yes, Kurt
>> built some with masthead rigs.  I've never sailed one but imagine the
>> larger
>> genny was a good thing.   I reckon some of the Folkboat's incredible
>> pointing ability was compromised, but on all other points of sail I'm 
>> sure
>> it was an improvement.   But of course one cannot consider the masthead
>> boats were 'real' Folkboats.
>>
>> And THAT reminds me of the first time I drove a Mazda Miata.  I have 
>> owned
>> an MGB for 27 years.... When I drove the Miata I was astonished at it's
>> nimblness and smooth power.  All the gauges worked, the engine idled,
>> there
>> were no funny burning odours and it's owner proudly told me he intended 
>> to
>> drive it all year round.  I thought to myself "so this is what MG was
>> trying
>> to create.."
>>
>> But then I thought, what's the point?  Nothing to worry about, nothing to
>> tinker with, no awkward and/or dangerous characteristics to proudly
>> endure.
>> I'll keep the MG...
>>
>>
>> Gord
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/03/12 11:12 AM, "Don Campbell" <dk.campbell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike :
>>>      Have the rules been changed so that no head sail can fly with a
>>> spinnaker?  As of 2010,  Chesapeake race rule  (15D) specifically does
>>> not allow spinnaker stay sails, but  'any allowed headsail may be flown
>>> with the spinnaker'. Since the working jib has a luff of 30', that might
>>> make the difficulties Gord has encountered with a chute and staysail
>>> even greater.
>>>      Rule 14 D within the Canadian rules does allow spinnaker staysails.
>>>
>>>      At the same time, there may have been  some very different ideas by
>>> Aberg. It is my understanding that theAL30 was originally a fractional
>>> rig design and  it was Kurt Hansen who changed the forestay based on his
>>> experience with Folkboats in Humber Bay at Toronto (light air and heavy
>>> boats). Undoubtedly the headsail sizes changed then too.
>>>      Gord may wish to comment on the differences in designed rig between
>>> a European and WBW Folkboat.
>>> Don
>>> #528
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