[Public-List] Babying our boats

Thu Sep 27 04:26:26 PDT 2012

I believe the slowest part of being overpowered is the fact that the boat gets out of balance, not the heel angle. When the main is overpowered it provides a windward moment that you must fight with the rudder, adding to the drag. That's why reefing early is a fast strategy . If you had a full main in 25 knots, and a crew of 5 250 lb deck apes to hold the heel down, you would still be holding the tiller hard over to stay off the wind, and would benefit from a reef.

Mike
Rinn Duin #272

-----Original Message-----
From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:51 AM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Babying our boats

I have sailed the Alberg with the rail in the water, the winches in water, the coamings in the water and even the spreaders in the water...all proved to be slooooow (especially with the spreaders in the water). The fastest and most comfortable angle is when the boat is healed to the cove stripe. Even if you have to backwind the main a bit...keep the rail out of the water!

Mike Lehman

><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>
-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Laco
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:48 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Babying our boats

Kris

I remember back when we were a One Design in LORC people reckoned 18-20 
degrees as the high end before heeling began to hurt speed.   I think that 
angle puts the rail a couple or a few inches free...

What do you Chesapeake  people say?

Gord 426

On 2012-09-26, at 5:11 PM, Kris Coward <kris at melon.org> wrote:

>
> That sounds like pushing the boat too hard to me; I find that Candy 
> Cane is a little quicker with her rail kept comfortably 2-3" out of 
> the water (though I don't have much of a collection of flags to back 
> this claim
> up...)
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 05:05:06PM -0400, Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY
> wrote:
>> Sometimes I worry that I push the boat too hard because of the full 
>> keel -- with a fin keel she would be more easily overpowered under 
>> too much sail.  On the A30 I often just put the rail in the water and 
>> drive the boat.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jeffrey [mailto:fongemie at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 04:01 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all 
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: [Public-List] Babying our boats
>>
>> I just came back from spending a few days on my boat and pushed
>> Seagrass pretty hard yesterday.   Wind was consistently in the mid
>> 20's with gusts over 30.  We started the day sailing down a river 
>> with current opposing the wind generated waves and it made for some 
>> nasty chop.  The boat handled itself well though. We had a double 
>> reefed main, with a standard working jib and were able to make 
>> progress beating into the wind, even against a couple of knots 
>> current.  It was a heck of a sail. Rails awash, water running into 
>> the cockpit..we were soaked.
>>
>> It did occur to me, that might I give this poor old girl a break?
>> She's from 1965 and pushing 50! I figured that the hull is strong, 
>> all my bulkheads are solid, chain-plates and bolts replaced.  
>> Standing rigging good. Cast aluminum mast-head..unknown. Mast beam is 
>> original, but holding on..
>>
>> Anyone else think twice when the wind picks up?
>>
>> Jeff Fongemie
>> #116 Seagrass
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie
>> _______________________________________________
>> These businesses support your Association:
>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> Please support them.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Public-List mailing list
>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> These businesses support your Association:
>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> Please support them.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Public-List mailing list
>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>
> -- 
> Kris Coward                    http://unripe.melon.org/
> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733  830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3 
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> Please support them.
> _______________________________________________
> Public-List mailing list
> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
_______________________________________________
These businesses support your Association:
http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
Please support them.
_______________________________________________
Public-List mailing list
Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 

_______________________________________________
These businesses support your Association:
http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
Please support them.
_______________________________________________
Public-List mailing list
Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org

 1348745186.0