[Public-List] Babying our boats

Thu Sep 27 05:32:54 PDT 2012

Thanks for the comments guys.

Jeff Fongemie
#116 Seagrass

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Absolutely - you should be able to drive the boat with 2 fingers.
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> Mike Lehman
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> -----Original Message----- From: Meinhold, Michael J.
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:26 AM
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> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Babying our boats
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> I believe the slowest part of being overpowered is the fact that the boat
> gets out of balance, not the heel angle. When the main is overpowered it
> provides a windward moment that you must fight with the rudder, adding to
> the drag. That's why reefing early is a fast strategy . If you had a full
> main in 25 knots, and a crew of 5 250 lb deck apes to hold the heel down,
> you would still be holding the tiller hard over to stay off the wind, and
> would benefit from a reef.
>
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Babying our boats
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> I have sailed the Alberg with the rail in the water, the winches in water,
> the coamings in the water and even the spreaders in the water...all proved
> to be slooooow (especially with the spreaders in the water). The fastest and
> most comfortable angle is when the boat is healed to the cove stripe. Even
> if you have to backwind the main a bit...keep the rail out of the water!
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> Mike Lehman
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Laco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Babying our boats
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> Kris
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> I remember back when we were a One Design in LORC people reckoned 18-20
> degrees as the high end before heeling began to hurt speed.   I think that
> angle puts the rail a couple or a few inches free...
>
> What do you Chesapeake  people say?
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> Gord 426
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> On 2012-09-26, at 5:11 PM, Kris Coward <kris at melon.org> wrote:
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>> That sounds like pushing the boat too hard to me; I find that Candy
>> Cane is a little quicker with her rail kept comfortably 2-3" out of
>> the water (though I don't have much of a collection of flags to back
>> this claim
>> up...)
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>> Cheers,
>> Kris
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>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 05:05:06PM -0400, Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sometimes I worry that I push the boat too hard because of the full
>>> keel -- with a fin keel she would be more easily overpowered under
>>> too much sail.  On the A30 I often just put the rail in the water and
>>> drive the boat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jeffrey [mailto:fongemie at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 04:01 PM
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>>> Subject: [Public-List] Babying our boats
>>>
>>> I just came back from spending a few days on my boat and pushed
>>> Seagrass pretty hard yesterday.   Wind was consistently in the mid
>>> 20's with gusts over 30.  We started the day sailing down a river
>>> with current opposing the wind generated waves and it made for some
>>> nasty chop.  The boat handled itself well though. We had a double
>>> reefed main, with a standard working jib and were able to make
>>> progress beating into the wind, even against a couple of knots
>>> current.  It was a heck of a sail. Rails awash, water running into
>>> the cockpit..we were soaked.
>>>
>>> It did occur to me, that might I give this poor old girl a break?
>>> She's from 1965 and pushing 50! I figured that the hull is strong,
>>> all my bulkheads are solid, chain-plates and bolts replaced.
>>> Standing rigging good. Cast aluminum mast-head..unknown. Mast beam is
>>> original, but holding on..
>>>
>>> Anyone else think twice when the wind picks up?
>>>
>>> Jeff Fongemie
>>> #116 Seagrass
>>>
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Jeffrey Fongemie

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