[Public-List] Getting mast wires into the boat?

Thu Aug 29 13:50:47 PDT 2013

Yes, good call Jim.

-jeff

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM, James Allocco <jamesallocco at gmail.com>wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> I looked up the cable Clam from Greg Bover's email.  They look like they
> would work well.  The only thing I would add is that I would drill an
> oversize hole thru the deck, maybe 3/8 inch larger than the finished hole.
> Then tape off the bottom, fill it with thickened epoxy, and after it
> hardened drill it out the your desired diameter.  This will leave  a 3/16
> in. wall thickness epoxy bushing that will prevent water form rotting the
> wood core.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM, James Allocco <jamesallocco at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff,
> > I like the idea of the stainless tube. The previous owner just drilled a
> > hole to push the wires thru. This allows water to enter under the skin
> and
> > rot the wood core.  I made a bronze tube with a mushroom shaped head
> > similar in appearance to a thru haul fitting. This I epoxied in place so
> > water will not spread into the core. It is located on the port side just
> > aft of the bulkhead and the and the connections are made in the head.
> >
> > To keep water from running into the boat thru the tube I wrap the wires
> > with white rigging tape  and coat it with liquid electrical tape. I had
> to
> > special order white liquid electrical tape from Jamestown Dist.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Meinhold, Michael J. <
> > MICHAEL.J.MEINHOLD at saic.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree - I am probably more noise-sensitive then many, but the slap of
> >> the wires drove me crazy.
> >>
> >> I did the same wire-tie trick and it's completely silent.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> Rinn Duin #272
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> >> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:06 PM
> >> To: Bill Wallace
> >> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Getting mast wires into the boat?
> >>
> >> Thanks Bill.
> >>
> >> I'll likely do the same thing. And I think you are right about the self
> >> amalgamating tape over whatever bundle of wires would stop most water.
> >>
> >> RE: I rewired my mast a couple of years ago and also used the cable tie
> >> trick. We used maybe 100 cable ties, but the wires inside are silent!
> >> It's been two seasons now and still not a peep. Works great.  Great bang
> >> for your buck on that fix.
> >>
> >> jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Bill Wallace
> >> <wayfarer3134 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I use the slightly larger than single wire sized cable clam to get 4
> >> > wires
> >> > - a triplex, two duplex and a round vhf wire so that I can disconnect
> >> > everything in the winter when the mast gets removed.  It seems pretty
> >> dry.
> >> >  I'd probably freeze it though for the initial drilling - and it is
> >> > really painful getting the wires through initially, as at least for me
> >>
> >> > it was a fairly small hole I used.  You could probably wrap the wire
> >> > with butyl tape to ensure a totally watertight pass through the rubber
> >>
> >> > stopper.  I'm planning on redoing it this winter as the VHF cable is
> >> > spliced twice and I'd like a better set of disconnects inside the boat
> >>
> >> > and at the top of the mast to allow me to remove the wind instruments
> >> > cleanly every winter.  The wires also bang inside the mast so I plan
> >> > on wrapping several sets of 3 cable ties to keep the wires centered
> >> > and prevent banging (every 3' roughly you wrap 3 cable ties with the
> >> > ends at 120 degrees to each other and preventing the cable from
> >> > slamming against the wall of the mast.)
> >> >
> >> > Bill.
> >> >
> >> >   ------------------------------
> >> >  *From:* Jeffrey <fongemie at gmail.com>
> >> > *To:* Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> >
> >> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:18:23 PM
> >> > *Subject:* [Public-List] Getting mast wires into the boat?
> >> >
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > I'm wondering what everyone else has set up to get the wires from the
> >> > mast into the boat?
> >> >
> >> > I have a setup on #116 where someone has drilled a hole through the
> >> > mast step plate, through the mast beam and it comes out just inside in
> >>
> >> > the v-berth just forward of the beam. A stainless tube was inserted
> >> > and the wires from the mast are run through this tube, into the boat
> >> > cabin to a connections box. It's a clean setup from the outside,
> >> > however we've discovered that unless you get a good drip loop in the
> >> > wires at the mast base water can flow down into cabin and drip on the
> >> > floor. And, the sll the wires into the tube is a tight fit.
> >> >
> >> > I'm about to remove my mast beam completely, and laminate a new one
> >> > out of sapele (or perhaps white oak). I think I'd like find a
> >> > different solution for the wires to exit the mast through a hole, then
> >>
> >> > into the cabin top via some fitting of some sort.
> >> >
> >> > I've used the Cable Clam type fittings with success for single round
> >> > cables:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=66
> >> > 1&familyName=Perko+Watertight+Cable+Outlets
> >> >
> >> > I wonder how those would work for multiple wires and duplex covered
> >> wires?
> >> >
> >> > What do you all do??
> >> >
> >> > I hope everyone is having a great season.  We decided to skip putting
> >> > our boat in the water to get some house and boat projects done, can't
> >> > wait until next season already.
> >> >
> >> > -jeff
> >> >
> >> > Seagrass #116
> >> > Boothbay Harbor Maine
> >> >
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