[Public-List] Newbee Looking for help with rudder parts

Sun Dec 15 11:40:04 PST 2013

I can't promise much action, but I'll broach the subject.  I just seems to
make sense that with 900-odd aging A30's wandering around that Edson might
see merit in supplying replacements for the gear they supplied....

On 15/12/13 2:26 PM, "Michael Connolly" <crufone at comcast.net> wrote:

> 

Gord, 

Wonderful 

Michael 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gordon
> Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:25:04 PM
> 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Newbee Looking for help with rudder parts 

Hi
> Michael - 

I know those folks fairly well... I've worked with them on various
> projects 
and we've talked in generalities about the idea of them doing
> casting for 
gear that I currently import from Europe. 

I'll write to them
> and tell you how it goes.  I'll deal with the president 
instead of the
> foundry manager and see where that goes. 

Stand by - 

Gord 

On 15/12/13
> 2:22 PM, "Michael Connolly" <crufone at comcast.net> wrote: 

> Hey Gord, 

> 
Maybe you can convince Edison to locate the parts and the Alberg 
> 30 group
> of owners could get a 50th Anniversary rudder gear casting package 
>
> together.  If they have the patterns and are willing to part with them then 
>
> the Alberg 30 group should achieve them somewhere for safe keeping and future
> 
> castings.  Whether your boat has gone upon the rocks, like Brad's, or not
> all 
> our boats are getting to the age when these parts are wearing out from
> normal 
> use. I don't know who does the castings for Edison but there are
> several small 
> specialty foundries who could do the work.  We all know that
> the labor 
> intensive part of the process is getting the patterns correct. 
> 

How well 
> do you know the folks at Edison?  Do you think they would be
> willing to help 
> us with a casting project?  Heck, if Peter McEvoy had the
> patterns he might be 
> willing to forge, ahem cast, ahead with another Alberg
> 30 project. I wonder if 
> Edison has the pattern for the rudder head fitting
> for the wooden tiller? 
> 
Michael #133 

----- Original Message ----- 

From:
> "Gordon Laco" 
> <mainstay at csolve.net> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
> all" 
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013
> 2:07:09 PM 
> 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Newbee Looking for help with rudder
> parts 

Port 
> Townsend Foundry are good people...but I think that Edson, who
> 
originally 
> supplied our fittings, still has the patterns. 

That said,
> I've never had 
> much luck finding someone there willing to discuss 
the
> issue beyond agreement 
> that they have the patterns for the Alberg 30's
> 
rudder gear. 

Gord #426 
> Surprise 

On 15/12/13 11:47 AM, "Michael
> Connolly" <crufone at comcast.net> 
> wrote: 

> 

Glenn and Woody, 

I would be
> interested in what the specs are 
> for what Port 
> Townsend Foundry has made
> in the past for the Alberg 30.  I 
> heard that what 
> patterns they have are
> for the Pacific Seacraft Dana 24 or 
> 26. Someone on this 
> list purchased
> these parts from Pt. Townsend and had to 
> substantially modify 
> them to
> fit his Alberg 30. Because of the initial high 
> cost plus not knowing 
>
> that they would not easily fit the Alberg 30 he was 
> not a happy
> camper.  When 
> you guys are doing your research with Pt. 
> Townsend it
> would be good to learn 
> if they have come up with patterns for 
> the Alberg
> 30  specifically. 

Michael 
> #133 

----- Original Message ----- 
> 

From:
> "Glenn" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> 
> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- 
> open
> to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
> 
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 
>
> 2013 11:27:22 AM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] 
> Newbee Looking for help with
> 
> rudder parts 

Hi Woody,  Did Pt Townsend Foundry 
> quote you a price?  
> 
> 

Thanks 
Glenn 

Sent from my iPad 

On Dec 13, 2013, at 
> 9:33 AM, Bill
> 
> Woodford <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com> wrote: 

> Brad, 
> 
> 
> I
> am 
> in the market myself.  I have been in contact with Port Townsend 
> 
>
> Foundry 
> who advises they have made these parts for the A30 before and are
> 
> 
> able 
> to make the gudgeon and pintle.  The contact info is: 
> 
>
> Peter R. 
> 
> Langley 
> 
> Port Townsend Foundry LLC 
> 
> 251 Otto St. 
>
> 
> Port Townsend 
> 
> WA. 98368 
> 
> P. 360 385-6425 
> 
> F. 360 385-1947
> 
> 
> 
> Best 
> regards, 
> 
> 
> 
> Woody 
> 
> US 11 
> 
> 
> 
> FYI, 
> 
>
> 
> I searched 
> the A30 
> archives and came across New Found Metals as a
> possible 
> source. 
>  Upon 
> contacting them, they advised they do not make
> the 
> gudgeon/pintles 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM,
> Michael Connolly 
> <crufone at comcast.net>wrote: 
> 
> 
>> ----- Original
> Message ----- 
>> 
>> 
> Hello all, 
>> Brad sent me this 
> E-mail and I
> asked George if I should pass 
> it on. He 
>> said yes so here it 
> is. 
>>
> Michael #133 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> From: "Bradford Cooke" < 
>
> brad at bradfordcookelaw.com > 
>> To: 
> crufone at comcast.net 
>> Sent: Tuesday,
> 
> December 10, 2013 2:26:50 PM 
>> 
> Subject: Alberg #109 
>> 
>> Hi Michael
> 
> Connelly, 
>> I just joined your 
> public list for Alberg 30 owners.  I
> wonder 
> if my 
>> situation comes under 
> your rules for publication. 
>>
> 
>> On 11/25, 
> my boat's mooring lines broke 
> in a storm.  She wound up on
> the 
>> rocks, 
> sustaining damage to the 
> rudder.  Basically, the gudgeons
> and 
>> pintles 
> broke.  If hinges is a 
> better term, then the straps to
> the keep 
>> snapped. 
> Also, a metal cap 
> (keeping the rudder in place) on
> the bottom of 
>> the keel 
> was ripped off 
> Do you, or anyone, know where
> I might get 
>> replacements, or 
> who could 
> make new ones?  Then there is
> the process of 
>> installing them. 
>  Any help 
> you ould give would be
> greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thank you, 
>> 
> Brad 
> Cooke 
>> 646-763-0156
> 
>> 
>> 
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