[Public-List] Back stay

Wed Jan 30 16:22:04 PST 2013

damn gordon i thought you were a nice guy. two nights? wow. u evil

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 From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Back stay

And all this of course reminds me of the Three Stooges episode where they're
outfitting a boat - anybody else remember that one?  One of the best.... It
probably scarred my sense of humour for life, to the detriment of friends
who sometimes sail with me.

Like the first time a chum sailed who was a regular in the Folkboat sailed
with me in SURPRISE after I'd bought her.   I gave him a big build-up about
how much more comfortable the bunks are in the A30 compared to the
coffin-like accomms in the wooden boat.   Before he arrived I placed two 1"
square by 12" long pieces of wood under his future bunks mattress about
where his shoulder and hips would be.   He lasted two nights before he
commented on the great discomfort.  He was so polite and apologetic when he
finally said something I almost regretted what I'd done to him.  When I
showed him what I'd done, he threw me overboard after a long chase around
the boat followed by quite a struggle.  I was laughing so hard I could
hardly defend myself.

Gord #426 Surprise

On 30/01/13 3:45 PM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Get Dudley Do-Right to cut it - it will be wrong for sure:)
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Birch
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:35 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Back stay
> 
> Boris & Natasha say, two sticks dynamite, give to Moose & Squirrel ; )
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Back stay
> 
> 
>> This is getting more and more violent....
>> 
>> 
>> On 30/01/13 3:29 PM, "Glennb" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> You could also use a 4" grinder with a thin metal cutting disk,  a bit
>>> more
>>> robust than  the dremel and one disk lasts forever.  Plus one gets to
>>> enjoy
>>> the zen of ship building - magnificent showers of flaming metal sparks
>>> shooting out from each cut!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:52 AM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Agree completely with everything Mike Lehman has written.
>>>> 
>>>> Did all Sunstone's shrouds with 1 dremel disc, on 316 SS Dyform Wire
>>>> onto
>>>> Norsemen fittings.
>>>> 
>>>> Note, use some plain masking tape at the cut to make sure the wire
>>>> doesn't
>>>> splay during the cut. The thin large diameter dremel fabric imbedded
>>>> disc is
>>>> the best.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Back stay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> "Cut the stay at the tape with a
>>>>> hacksaw"
>>>>> 
>>>>> The absolute best tool for cutting SS wire is the dremel tool with the
>>>>> proper disc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Laco
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:33 PM
>>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Back stay
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I've had clients do in the past is measure as described.... Then
>>>>> have
>>>>> the new stay made a foot or so longer than you expect to need it to be.
>>>>> Have the rigging supplier swage on the top end (make very sure you know
>>>>> the
>>>>> type of end you need - fork or eye - and the pin diameter)
>>>>> 
>>>>> To install the stay, run a couple of halyards back to solid points on
>>>>> the
>>>>> deck, then go up the mast and remove the backstay.  After lowering it
>>>>> to the
>>>>> deck, install the new one, and come down.  Once on deck again, hold the
>>>>> new
>>>>> backstay to the extended old backstay turnbuckle and mark where the end
>>>>> of
>>>>> it needs to be with tape.  visualize  Cut the stay at the tape with a
>>>>> hacksaw and install a stalok or similar swageless terminal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tension up the new backstay - put the halyards away and the job's done.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only dodgy part of this operation is going up the mast while
>>>>> jury-rigged
>>>>> halyards are staying it from aft.  This isn't dangerous in itself, but
>>>>> the
>>>>> consequences of somebody releasing the wrong line etc are not good. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> have a mast crane at your club/marina, use that as a back up for
>>>>> safety.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/01/13 2:26 PM, "Jonathan Whittingham" <whittle at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you can't wait, go up mast with a piece of non stretch string,
>>>>>> attach to
>>>>>> top end, descend with other end in a loop, measure what you need ,
>>>>>> mark it
>>>>>> and pull the loop back from the deck. Measure the mark.Jonathan. (Or
>>>>>> send a
>>>>>> small child up instead!)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bill Ydel
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:25 AM
>>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Back stay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since I am taking the Mast down to replace the sheave I will also
>>>>>> replace
>>>>>> the back stay. Does anyone have the specifications for that stay so I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> order it before I take the boat to the yard.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SallyB #441
>>>>>> 
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