[Public-List] Can anyone recommend a surveyor in the Norfolk area?

[Jason S]

Good luck, Ray is my friend so I will leave the pricing up to you. But the
worst he can say is no.
I understand your wanting a diesel...seems to be all the rage...but that A4
is easy to work on and will last just about as long or longer than many
diesels.....if taken care of. Oh and parts are fairly easy to find and
cheap too, someone local gave me a spare A4 last year...that A4 is a whole
quieter than any diesel too.
I wouldn't let rigging scare you either....very easy to replace. This slso
gave me an opportunity to inspect all the addition rigging such as
masthead, sheaves, blocks, spreaders, mast base, boom etc, some of which
needed attention after 42yrs. Had i paid someone else to come rig boat
chances are none of that would have gotten the attention it needed and I
would have paid at least twice as much just for standing rigging. I made
all my shrouds and stays at home over a weekend. I used sta-loc fittings
top and bottom. If and when replace cable it will be relatively cheap. Food
for thought. Good luck again.
On Jul 9, 2013 2:07 AM, "Paul P" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great info, thanks! Yeh, already emailed the guy about that sail :-) what
> do you think a fair offer would be if things checked out? I don't want to
> insult the guy but there are a couple of diesels inc a recent yanmar
> further afield for under $10k. The atomic, running gear are all negatives
> but she looks like she has good canvas, nice dodger, solar, tiller
> autopilot I could tie into a capehorn, v clean interior.
> 
> Wherever the price lands, it doesn't
> begin to represent the true value of a machine like that. It just needs a
> new home for someone to love it for the long term and show it the world :-)
> Hopefully, we can make an agreement and make it happen. She's terribly
> pretty and local.
>
> 
> Thanks again, wish me luck!
>
>
> Paul.
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Those were my observations from the dock. I would check the decks. The
> main
> > does need replaced. But I see all these issues as bargaining tools...you
> > might be able to get a solid boat for a deal.
> > I bought my Alberg for $4800.00 with good serviceable and sailable sails,
> > Moyer rebuilt A4, new thru hulls, new lavac head, new shaft and prop...I
> > sailed her home from Oriental, NC. I knew I would be replacing rigging
> > because honestly there is just no good way to know condition. Same with
> > chsinplates, so I replaced it all and know I know. I bought my boat
> knowing
> > it was a long term deal....I would eventually make her into a solid
> > cruising boat for my wife and I. Like I said I think she is a solid
> start.
> > If you replace main it should last a good while. I saw one on craiglist
> > there in Annapolis for $3-400.
> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:37 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That's bad news about the rigging, the mainsail needs replacing too. It
> >> looks like the previous owner spent some money though. I'd be happier
> with
> >> a diesel but I think an electric repower would be a great longer term
> >> project :-) Any specific "needs attention" items off the top of your
> head?
> >>
> >> Anyone know details of the previous owner of 449 and the work that he
> did.
> >> Current owner says he's not done anything significant in terms of
> >> maintenance since purchase a couple of years ago.
> >>
> >> Thanks so much,
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have tried to talk him out if selling because I believe she is a
> good
> >> > solid boat...but as with all old boats some things need attention.
> >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:22 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Well, ask away. I can tell you her engine sounds great. I also have
> an
> >> > > atomic 4, great engines. I believe her rigging is original by
> looking.
> >> I
> >> > > recently redid my rigging and chain plates myself, cost about $2000
> >> when
> >> > > all totaled up. Her hull looks to be in good condition. She has a
> >> > beautiful
> >> > > gtoe rail, rub rail setup. She was sailed quite a bit by the current
> >> > owner.
> >> > > Her interior is quite nice., what else?
> >> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Amazing, small world! Please tell all :-D
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> >
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > That's her and her hull is 449
> >> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:09 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > I'm not sure of the hull number. It's name is Janus. It has a
> blue
> >> > >> hull
> >> > >> > and
> >> > >> > > Dodger. It's a 1970. Is that the one right next to you? If so,
> I'd
> >> > >> love
> >> > >> > any
> >> > >> > > info you or anyone else has.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Paul.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Jason S <
> >> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > I decided to skip a survey when buying my Alberg....all
> areas of
> >> > the
> >> > >> > boat
> >> > >> > > > are easily accessible. The boats are pretty basic and easy to
> >> > >> maintain.
> >> > >> > > > Check chain plates, rigging. Have it hauled and inspect
> rudder.
> >> > >> Check
> >> > >> > > decks
> >> > >> > > > with screwdriver. Tap the decks through out. Should not sound
> >> > >> hollow.
> >> > >> > > > Listen for creeking on decks as well. Do a compression test
> on
> >> > >> engine.
> >> > >> > If
> >> > >> > > > all systems look good go for it. A surveyor is only going to
> >> give
> >> > >> his
> >> > >> > > best
> >> > >> > > > guess anyway.
> >> > >> > > > I knew when buying my Alberg that I would be replacing
> rigging
> >> > >> anyway
> >> > >> > do
> >> > >> > > it
> >> > >> > > > wasn't to much of a deal breaker that it was original.
> >> > >> > > > What Alberg in Norfolk are you looking at.....there is one
> right
> >> > >> next
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > > me
> >> > >> > > > for sale, I could give you some info on if it is the boat you
> >> are
> >> > >> > looking
> >> > >> > > > at. Hull 449?
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Thanks
> >> > >> > > > Jason
> >> > >> > > > www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
> >> > >> > > > #457
> >> > >> > > > On Jul 9, 2013 12:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Anyone have any recommendations for a surveyor in the
> Norfolk
> >> > area
> >> > >> > who
> >> > >> > > > > knows his way around an Alberg 30? :-)
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > At under $10k asking price and a copy of Don Casey's
> Inspect
> >> an
> >> > >> aging
> >> > >> > > > > sailboat, I'd be tempted to skip it as it could represent
> 10%
> >> of
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > > > purchase price! But I'm going to need one to get insurance.
> >> > >> Obviously
> >> > >> > > > > survey cost is a factor :-D
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Thanks in advance for any info, I'm very excited about
> >> becoming
> >> > an
> >> > >> > > Alberg
> >> > >> > > > > owner! I'm driving down from Baltimore to see it tomorrow
> >> > evening.
> >> > >> > Wish
> >> > >> > > > me
> >> > >> > > > > luck.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Cheers,Paul.
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