[Public-List] Can anyone recommend a surveyor in the Norfolk area?

Paul pickpaul at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 08:20:36 PDT 2013 

Thanks for the additional info, I can't wait to get down there and see it
today! Solid argument on the engine. An electric motor would be much
quieter than an Atom 4 too :-D I'll focus on deck soft spots, thru hulls
and chainplates. Cheers, Paul.


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good luck, Ray is my friend so I will leave the pricing up to you. But the
> worst he can say is no.
> I understand your wanting a diesel...seems to be all the rage...but that A4
> is easy to work on and will last just about as long or longer than many
> diesels.....if taken care of. Oh and parts are fairly easy to find and
> cheap too, someone local gave me a spare A4 last year...that A4 is a whole
> quieter than any diesel too.
> I wouldn't let rigging scare you either....very easy to replace. This slso
> gave me an opportunity to inspect all the addition rigging such as
> masthead, sheaves, blocks, spreaders, mast base, boom etc, some of which
> needed attention after 42yrs. Had i paid someone else to come rig boat
> chances are none of that would have gotten the attention it needed and I
> would have paid at least twice as much just for standing rigging. I made
> all my shrouds and stays at home over a weekend. I used sta-loc fittings
> top and bottom. If and when replace cable it will be relatively cheap. Food
> for thought. Good luck again.
> On Jul 9, 2013 2:07 AM, "Paul P" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great info, thanks! Yeh, already emailed the guy about that sail :-) what
> > do you think a fair offer would be if things checked out? I don't want to
> > insult the guy but there are a couple of diesels inc a recent yanmar
> > further afield for under $10k. The atomic, running gear are all negatives
> > but she looks like she has good canvas, nice dodger, solar, tiller
> > autopilot I could tie into a capehorn, v clean interior.
> >
> > Wherever the price lands, it doesn't
> > begin to represent the true value of a machine like that. It just needs a
> > new home for someone to love it for the long term and show it the world
> :-)
> > Hopefully, we can make an agreement and make it happen. She's terribly
> > pretty and local.
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, wish me luck!
> >
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > —
> > Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Those were my observations from the dock. I would check the decks. The
> > main
> > > does need replaced. But I see all these issues as bargaining
> tools...you
> > > might be able to get a solid boat for a deal.
> > > I bought my Alberg for $4800.00 with good serviceable and sailable
> sails,
> > > Moyer rebuilt A4, new thru hulls, new lavac head, new shaft and
> prop...I
> > > sailed her home from Oriental, NC. I knew I would be replacing rigging
> > > because honestly there is just no good way to know condition. Same with
> > > chsinplates, so I replaced it all and know I know. I bought my boat
> > knowing
> > > it was a long term deal....I would eventually make her into a solid
> > > cruising boat for my wife and I. Like I said I think she is a solid
> > start.
> > > If you replace main it should last a good while. I saw one on craiglist
> > > there in Annapolis for $3-400.
> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:37 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> That's bad news about the rigging, the mainsail needs replacing too.
> It
> > >> looks like the previous owner spent some money though. I'd be happier
> > with
> > >> a diesel but I think an electric repower would be a great longer term
> > >> project :-) Any specific "needs attention" items off the top of your
> > head?
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know details of the previous owner of 449 and the work that he
> > did.
> > >> Current owner says he's not done anything significant in terms of
> > >> maintenance since purchase a couple of years ago.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks so much,
> > >>
> > >> Paul.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have tried to talk him out if selling because I believe she is a
> > good
> > >> > solid boat...but as with all old boats some things need attention.
> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:22 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Well, ask away. I can tell you her engine sounds great. I also
> have
> > an
> > >> > > atomic 4, great engines. I believe her rigging is original by
> > looking.
> > >> I
> > >> > > recently redid my rigging and chain plates myself, cost about
> $2000
> > >> when
> > >> > > all totaled up. Her hull looks to be in good condition. She has a
> > >> > beautiful
> > >> > > gtoe rail, rub rail setup. She was sailed quite a bit by the
> current
> > >> > owner.
> > >> > > Her interior is quite nice., what else?
> > >> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Amazing, small world! Please tell all :-D
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Jason S <
> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > That's her and her hull is 449
> > >> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:09 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > I'm not sure of the hull number. It's name is Janus. It has a
> > blue
> > >> > >> hull
> > >> > >> > and
> > >> > >> > > Dodger. It's a 1970. Is that the one right next to you? If
> so,
> > I'd
> > >> > >> love
> > >> > >> > any
> > >> > >> > > info you or anyone else has.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Paul.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Jason S <
> > >> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > I decided to skip a survey when buying my Alberg....all
> > areas of
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> > boat
> > >> > >> > > > are easily accessible. The boats are pretty basic and easy
> to
> > >> > >> maintain.
> > >> > >> > > > Check chain plates, rigging. Have it hauled and inspect
> > rudder.
> > >> > >> Check
> > >> > >> > > decks
> > >> > >> > > > with screwdriver. Tap the decks through out. Should not
> sound
> > >> > >> hollow.
> > >> > >> > > > Listen for creeking on decks as well. Do a compression test
> > on
> > >> > >> engine.
> > >> > >> > If
> > >> > >> > > > all systems look good go for it. A surveyor is only going
> to
> > >> give
> > >> > >> his
> > >> > >> > > best
> > >> > >> > > > guess anyway.
> > >> > >> > > > I knew when buying my Alberg that I would be replacing
> > rigging
> > >> > >> anyway
> > >> > >> > do
> > >> > >> > > it
> > >> > >> > > > wasn't to much of a deal breaker that it was original.
> > >> > >> > > > What Alberg in Norfolk are you looking at.....there is one
> > right
> > >> > >> next
> > >> > >> > to
> > >> > >> > > me
> > >> > >> > > > for sale, I could give you some info on if it is the boat
> you
> > >> are
> > >> > >> > looking
> > >> > >> > > > at. Hull 449?
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > Thanks
> > >> > >> > > > Jason
> > >> > >> > > > www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
> > >> > >> > > > #457
> > >> > >> > > > On Jul 9, 2013 12:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Anyone have any recommendations for a surveyor in the
> > Norfolk
> > >> > area
> > >> > >> > who
> > >> > >> > > > > knows his way around an Alberg 30? :-)
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > At under $10k asking price and a copy of Don Casey's
> > Inspect
> > >> an
> > >> > >> aging
> > >> > >> > > > > sailboat, I'd be tempted to skip it as it could represent
> > 10%
> > >> of
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> > > > > purchase price! But I'm going to need one to get
> insurance.
> > >> > >> Obviously
> > >> > >> > > > > survey cost is a factor :-D
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Thanks in advance for any info, I'm very excited about
> > >> becoming
> > >> > an
> > >> > >> > > Alberg
> > >> > >> > > > > owner! I'm driving down from Baltimore to see it tomorrow
> > >> > evening.
> > >> > >> > Wish
> > >> > >> > > > me
> > >> > >> > > > > luck.
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Cheers,Paul.
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