[Public-List] Can anyone recommend a surveyor in the Norfolk area?

Andre Ballowe efficientair at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 09:09:03 PDT 2013 

Richard if I may but in here, my name is Andre and I have become an Alberg
30 (644)  owner 5 weeks ago. (Sounds like a twelve step program) She is in
need of re-power as the MD7A is history.  Being put off by the price of new
or even used replacement motors has gotten me thinking about repowering
with electric. One of my long term goals was to install a few panels and
the addition of batteries to gain comfort power when cruising. Using
electric as the re-power tied with the solar would allow me many benefits.

If I read right, you are powered by electric. Do you having any insights in
going the electric power route? I'm quite fond of the idea of the
re-arranged space made available by offing the diesel tank and motor, not
having the smell, these along many other benefits.

I've just lightly started the search for the proper way(s) to go about
re-powering with electric, any insight from an electric Alberg owner would
be awesome.

Thank you,
Andre 644

Andre Ballowe
Solutions for Energy Savings
916.990.2000
If and when you get to the point of going electric get in touch. We love
it and when  under sail we have a setup to charge the house from the regen.
Richard 609
On 2013-07-09 3:21 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good luck, Ray is my friend so I will leave the pricing up to you. But the
> worst he can say is no.
> I understand your wanting a diesel...seems to be all the rage...but that
A4
> is easy to work on and will last just about as long or longer than many
> diesels.....if taken care of. Oh and parts are fairly easy to find and
> cheap too, someone local gave me a spare A4 last year...that A4 is a whole
> quieter than any diesel too.
> I wouldn't let rigging scare you either....very easy to replace. This slso
> gave me an opportunity to inspect all the addition rigging such as
> masthead, sheaves, blocks, spreaders, mast base, boom etc, some of which
> needed attention after 42yrs. Had i paid someone else to come rig boat
> chances are none of that would have gotten the attention it needed and I
> would have paid at least twice as much just for standing rigging. I made
> all my shrouds and stays at home over a weekend. I used sta-loc fittings
> top and bottom. If and when replace cable it will be relatively cheap.
Food
> for thought. Good luck again.
> On Jul 9, 2013 2:07 AM, "Paul P" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Great info, thanks! Yeh, already emailed the guy about that sail :-)
what
> > do you think a fair offer would be if things checked out? I don't want
to
> > insult the guy but there are a couple of diesels inc a recent yanmar
> > further afield for under $10k. The atomic, running gear are all
negatives
> > but she looks like she has good canvas, nice dodger, solar, tiller
> > autopilot I could tie into a capehorn, v clean interior.
> >
> > Wherever the price lands, it doesn't
> > begin to represent the true value of a machine like that. It just needs
a
> > new home for someone to love it for the long term and show it the world
> :-)
> > Hopefully, we can make an agreement and make it happen. She's terribly
> > pretty and local.
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, wish me luck!
> >
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > —
> > Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Those were my observations from the dock. I would check the decks. The
> > main
> > > does need replaced. But I see all these issues as bargaining
> tools...you
> > > might be able to get a solid boat for a deal.
> > > I bought my Alberg for $4800.00 with good serviceable and sailable
> sails,
> > > Moyer rebuilt A4, new thru hulls, new lavac head, new shaft and
> prop...I
> > > sailed her home from Oriental, NC. I knew I would be replacing rigging
> > > because honestly there is just no good way to know condition. Same
with
> > > chsinplates, so I replaced it all and know I know. I bought my boat
> > knowing
> > > it was a long term deal....I would eventually make her into a solid
> > > cruising boat for my wife and I. Like I said I think she is a solid
> > start.
> > > If you replace main it should last a good while. I saw one on
craiglist
> > > there in Annapolis for $3-400.
> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:37 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> That's bad news about the rigging, the mainsail needs replacing too.
> It
> > >> looks like the previous owner spent some money though. I'd be happier
> > with
> > >> a diesel but I think an electric repower would be a great longer term
> > >> project :-) Any specific "needs attention" items off the top of your
> > head?
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know details of the previous owner of 449 and the work that he
> > did.
> > >> Current owner says he's not done anything significant in terms of
> > >> maintenance since purchase a couple of years ago.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks so much,
> > >>
> > >> Paul.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have tried to talk him out if selling because I believe she is a
> > good
> > >> > solid boat...but as with all old boats some things need attention.
> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:22 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Well, ask away. I can tell you her engine sounds great. I also
> have
> > an
> > >> > > atomic 4, great engines. I believe her rigging is original by
> > looking.
> > >> I
> > >> > > recently redid my rigging and chain plates myself, cost about
> $2000
> > >> when
> > >> > > all totaled up. Her hull looks to be in good condition. She has a
> > >> > beautiful
> > >> > > gtoe rail, rub rail setup. She was sailed quite a bit by the
> current
> > >> > owner.
> > >> > > Her interior is quite nice., what else?
> > >> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Amazing, small world! Please tell all :-D
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Jason S <
> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > That's her and her hull is 449
> > >> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:09 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > I'm not sure of the hull number. It's name is Janus. It has
a
> > blue
> > >> > >> hull
> > >> > >> > and
> > >> > >> > > Dodger. It's a 1970. Is that the one right next to you? If
> so,
> > I'd
> > >> > >> love
> > >> > >> > any
> > >> > >> > > info you or anyone else has.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Paul.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Jason S <
> > >> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > I decided to skip a survey when buying my Alberg....all
> > areas of
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> > boat
> > >> > >> > > > are easily accessible. The boats are pretty basic and easy
> to
> > >> > >> maintain.
> > >> > >> > > > Check chain plates, rigging. Have it hauled and inspect
> > rudder.
> > >> > >> Check
> > >> > >> > > decks
> > >> > >> > > > with screwdriver. Tap the decks through out. Should not
> sound
> > >> > >> hollow.
> > >> > >> > > > Listen for creeking on decks as well. Do a compression
test
> > on
> > >> > >> engine.
> > >> > >> > If
> > >> > >> > > > all systems look good go for it. A surveyor is only going
> to
> > >> give
> > >> > >> his
> > >> > >> > > best
> > >> > >> > > > guess anyway.
> > >> > >> > > > I knew when buying my Alberg that I would be replacing
> > rigging
> > >> > >> anyway
> > >> > >> > do
> > >> > >> > > it
> > >> > >> > > > wasn't to much of a deal breaker that it was original.
> > >> > >> > > > What Alberg in Norfolk are you looking at.....there is one
> > right
> > >> > >> next
> > >> > >> > to
> > >> > >> > > me
> > >> > >> > > > for sale, I could give you some info on if it is the boat
> you
> > >> are
> > >> > >> > looking
> > >> > >> > > > at. Hull 449?
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > Thanks
> > >> > >> > > > Jason
> > >> > >> > > > www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
> > >> > >> > > > #457
> > >> > >> > > > On Jul 9, 2013 12:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Anyone have any recommendations for a surveyor in the
> > Norfolk
> > >> > area
> > >> > >> > who
> > >> > >> > > > > knows his way around an Alberg 30? :-)
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > At under $10k asking price and a copy of Don Casey's
> > Inspect
> > >> an
> > >> > >> aging
> > >> > >> > > > > sailboat, I'd be tempted to skip it as it could
represent
> > 10%
> > >> of
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> > > > > purchase price! But I'm going to need one to get
> insurance.
> > >> > >> Obviously
> > >> > >> > > > > survey cost is a factor :-D
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Thanks in advance for any info, I'm very excited about
> > >> becoming
> > >> > an
> > >> > >> > > Alberg
> > >> > >> > > > > owner! I'm driving down from Baltimore to see it
tomorrow
> > >> > evening.
> > >> > >> > Wish
> > >> > >> > > > me
> > >> > >> > > > > luck.
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Cheers,Paul.
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