[Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell

Fri Dec 12 06:39:14 PST 2014

Brian

Some years ago I replaced myold A4 with another one that had very few 
hours on it. I am  pleased with the result. I do not think you should be 
scared off by an A4 if it is in good condition.

David, 432

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Brian Zinser via Public-List wrote:

> I am in the UP. Boat is in DeTour Village, Engine is currently at 
> Mertaug's in Cedarville.
>
> If I decide to rebuild, I might give you a call. Don't really want an 
> Atomic 4.
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On 
> Behalf Of Dwayne Back via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:55 PM
> To: Glenn Brooks; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell
>
> Brian,
> I currently have a 1965 Grey Marine engine that I believe all that is 
> wrong with it is the carburetor fouled up, but not 100% certain.  I am 
> quite confident the block is fine so between the two you may be able 
> to rebuild a decent engine and have spare parts.  It has been stored 
> inside heated building for last couple of years.  If you wanted the 
> engine and you are welcome to it.  Biggest issue is I am in Detroit 
> area, not sure of your location.
> Dwayne#94
>      On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:38 PM, Glenn Brooks via 
> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>  Brian,  It might be time well spent to google craigslist for used 
> marine engines for a few days.  I've seen both a rebuilt atomic 4 and 
> several used but running small marine diesels for sale (cheap) around 
> the Seattle  area over the last few months.  If the price is right and 
> the equipment runs OK, you could afford to ship a used or rebuilt 
> engine from anywhere in the country back to your location more 
> economically than buying new, probably for less than $400 freight 
> cost.
>
> BTW, don't be put off by the work involved in changing engine mounts. 
> I redid mine to correct some alignment issues this fall. IT was no big 
> deal. Took less than 3 hours to glass in new beds and bolt back up the 
> existing engine mounts.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Glenn Dolce #318
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List 
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Brian,
>>
>> Looks like to me you have two options-your current motor with cracked 
>> block is toast leaving you with the Automatic 4 which you should be 
>> able to get at a reasonable price, installed.  You'd probably 
>> increase the value of the boat over its current "project boat" status 
>> dollar for dollar??? The other option is, as you've stated, the new 
>> diesel option where you will not recover the cost dollar for dollar.
>>
>> Obviously there are a few variables going on here, personally I think 
>> I'd go the A4 route-it'll be rebuilt, right?
>>
>> You can then sail her for a couple more years or sell. Can I assume 
>> you owe nothing on her as she sits?
>>
>> Or maybe it's the project boat route where you take your 3 or 4 K and 
>> walk away.
>>
>> Wes
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Brian Zinser via Public-List 
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have owned #134 for more than 15 years. She has a Gray Marine Sea 
>>> Scout
>>> which has never let us down. Two years ago I noticed some loss of 
>>> power and
>>> this season I started to notice water in my oil. Anyway, when she 
>>> was hauled
>>> out this fall I had the engine removed and diagnosed. This is the 
>>> report I
>>> received:
>>>
>>> We did a compression test on the motor  with the following results: 
>>> 110lbs. #1 cylinder; 100 #2lbs. cylinder; 0lbs. #3 cylinder;  40lbs. 
>>> # 4
>>> cylinder
>>>
>>> We found the motor has a cracked block and has two broken valve 
>>> springs with
>>> a bent valve.
>>>
>>> The motor had water in the oil and the oil was very milky.
>>>
>>> We removed the head to do visual inspection of valves and head 
>>> gasket and do
>>> not believe the water is coming through the head gasket, but that 
>>> it's
>>> coming through at a different point, possibly the crack in the 
>>> block.
>>>
>>> In our judgement we believe it would be best to replace motor.
>>>
>>> The shop that did the diagnosis has a used Atomic 4 they want to 
>>> sell me. I
>>> have spoken/sent photos to Gray Marine in Illinois and he has 
>>> informed me
>>> that he gets them like this all the time. No sweat. Cannot give me a 
>>> quote
>>> without seeing.
>>>
>>> Other options include repowering with a diesel or selling the boat 
>>> as a
>>> "project boat"
>>>
>>> For the most part, the boat is in fairly good shape. Only 
>>> freshwater, no
>>> major remuddles. Average equipment, i.e. newer sails, ProFurl 
>>> furler,
>>> dodger, Origo stove.
>>>
>>> I also have a decent trailer (not a highway trailer, but certainly 
>>> more than
>>> a yard trailer - it can easily be used on secondary roads.)
>>>
>>> Thinking of selling. Any opinions on what might be a fair value for 
>>> the boat
>>> with a torn down problem engine?
>>>
>>> Brian Zinser
>>> #134
>>>
>>>
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