[Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck

Wed Jan 29 12:50:37 PST 2014

Much, much stronger

~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~

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From: Meinhold, Michael J. 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:21 PM 
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OK , now yer makin' me nervous - I hope the older boats have stronger
decks!

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:16 PM
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On our boat #505 we seldom used the inboard tracks. By the time I got
down to a double reefed main and a working jib it was blowing 35 steady,
so I like the idea of sheeting to the rail to open the slot and also
because I too was concerned about the strength of a track bolted to an
unsupported deck. Finally, after many years of stubbing my toes on the
inboard track, I removed the track and ground down the raised fiberglass
that it was mounted on. I was surprised to see many large voids in the
glass in the raised fiberglass mount and I was thankful that I did not
use this track in heavy weather.

~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~

-----Original Message-----
From: Meinhold, Michael J.
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:37 PM
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On the Chesapeake, when the wind pipes up from north our south, we get
A30-length steep waves, which make for very slow and uncomfortable
motoring.
If you can't or don't want to stay in the anchorage, it's better to be
beating than motoring when it's windy.  If you want to get anywhere you
appreciate the VMG benefits of a properly sheeted working jib and
balanced sailplan.

I have never seen any deck flexure in way of the track, but I am never
below when using it!

Mike
Rinn Duin #272
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of John Birch
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:09 AM
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Think one needs to ask oneself, how much pointing do you do in heavy
seas and big wind. I for one, foot to maintain boat speed and control
and crab to weather.

The factory jib track location on A-30s and A-37's is problematic, as it
is on unsupported deck. They are both built the same.

We always now carry either our rolled # 1 or purpose Built # 3 (105%
blade
jib) sheeted to the toe rail track which is well supported.

Go to weather like the dickens on flat water in wind and foot in the
heavy wave situations.

Personally, I wouldn't bother installing / reinstalling the inside
tracks.
Just another place for leaks, and as I said above, its an unsupported
section.

Cheers

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Brooks" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck

> Bill and David, thanks for your most recent comments and the photos.
Also
> many thanks to others on the list who who offered information and
feedback
> and photos.   For some reason Dolce appears never to have had the jyb
> tracks installed. Rather like Gord's has done on Surprise, there where

> extra cars on the toe rail, which I assume now where used for jyb
sheets,
> although not allowing as much pointing ability.
>
> I think I will experiment with sheeting angles using blocks on the
forward
> edge of the toe rail, as Gord mentioned his inboard sheets abraid
against
> the lowers when sailing off the wind.  Also I realized I probably
don't
> need to be beating into 35 kts with anything other than my 25 hp
diesel!
>
> Cheers,
> Glenn B.
> Dolce 318
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Bill Woodford 
>> <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com> wrote:
>>
>> Glenn,
>>
>> On US 11, my jib track is as David described.  While I don't have
precise
>> measurements, I found a couple photos I can send to you that may
help.
>>
>> I will say that I have yet to be successful sailing the 100% jib.  It
is
>> probably operator error and that fact that I rarely use the small
jib.
>> However, you may wish to talk with some others about a different 
>> placement of the track.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Woody
>> US 11
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:33 AM, David Terrell
>> <dterrell1 at charter.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>> I found a picture of the jib track as it was when I purchased the
boat.
>>> They are located near the forward port in the salon. they are
positioned
>>> with the forward end closer to the cabin than the aft end is. I will

>>> scan
>>> the picture and send it to you. I may have the original tracks if
you
>>> are
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> David, 432
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Glenn Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>> I am thinking of mounting working jyb tracks on my side decks near
the
>>>> front of the cabin or rear foredeck.  Has anybody done this and if
so
>>>> how
>>>> far forward of the lowers and inboard should they bolted to the
deck?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much,
>>>> Glenn Dolce  #318
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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