[Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck

Wed Jan 29 12:54:03 PST 2014

I'm going to do the same with mine, and for the same reasons.

Gord #426 Surprise

On 29/01/14 3:50 PM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Much, much stronger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meinhold, Michael J.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck
> 
> OK , now yer makin' me nervous - I hope the older boats have stronger
> decks!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck
> 
> On our boat #505 we seldom used the inboard tracks. By the time I got
> down to a double reefed main and a working jib it was blowing 35 steady,
> so I like the idea of sheeting to the rail to open the slot and also
> because I too was concerned about the strength of a track bolted to an
> unsupported deck. Finally, after many years of stubbing my toes on the
> inboard track, I removed the track and ground down the raised fiberglass
> that it was mounted on. I was surprised to see many large voids in the
> glass in the raised fiberglass mount and I was thankful that I did not
> use this track in heavy weather.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meinhold, Michael J.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:37 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck
> 
> On the Chesapeake, when the wind pipes up from north our south, we get
> A30-length steep waves, which make for very slow and uncomfortable
> motoring.
> If you can't or don't want to stay in the anchorage, it's better to be
> beating than motoring when it's windy.  If you want to get anywhere you
> appreciate the VMG benefits of a properly sheeted working jib and
> balanced sailplan.
> 
> I have never seen any deck flexure in way of the track, but I am never
> below when using it!
> 
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of John Birch
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:09 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck
> 
> Think one needs to ask oneself, how much pointing do you do in heavy
> seas and big wind. I for one, foot to maintain boat speed and control
> and crab to weather.
> 
> The factory jib track location on A-30s and A-37's is problematic, as it
> is on unsupported deck. They are both built the same.
> 
> We always now carry either our rolled # 1 or purpose Built # 3 (105%
> blade
> jib) sheeted to the toe rail track which is well supported.
> 
> Go to weather like the dickens on flat water in wind and foot in the
> heavy wave situations.
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't bother installing / reinstalling the inside
> tracks.
> Just another place for leaks, and as I said above, its an unsupported
> section.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> John
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Brooks" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Jyb track location on foredeck
> 
> 
>> Bill and David, thanks for your most recent comments and the photos.
> Also
>> many thanks to others on the list who who offered information and
> feedback
>> and photos.   For some reason Dolce appears never to have had the jyb
>> tracks installed. Rather like Gord's has done on Surprise, there where
> 
>> extra cars on the toe rail, which I assume now where used for jyb
> sheets,
>> although not allowing as much pointing ability.
>> 
>> I think I will experiment with sheeting angles using blocks on the
> forward
>> edge of the toe rail, as Gord mentioned his inboard sheets abraid
> against
>> the lowers when sailing off the wind.  Also I realized I probably
> don't
>> need to be beating into 35 kts with anything other than my 25 hp
> diesel!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Glenn B.
>> Dolce 318
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Bill Woodford
>>> <williamwoodford at charleswoodford.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glenn,
>>> 
>>> On US 11, my jib track is as David described.  While I don't have
> precise
>>> measurements, I found a couple photos I can send to you that may
> help.
>>> 
>>> I will say that I have yet to be successful sailing the 100% jib.  It
> is
>>> probably operator error and that fact that I rarely use the small
> jib.
>>> However, you may wish to talk with some others about a different
>>> placement of the track.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> Woody
>>> US 11
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:33 AM, David Terrell
>>> <dterrell1 at charter.net>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Glenn
>>>> 
>>>> I found a picture of the jib track as it was when I purchased the
> boat.
>>>> They are located near the forward port in the salon. they are
> positioned
>>>> with the forward end closer to the cabin than the aft end is. I will
> 
>>>> scan
>>>> the picture and send it to you. I may have the original tracks if
> you
>>>> are
>>>> interested.
>>>> 
>>>> David, 432
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Glenn Brooks wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I am thinking of mounting working jyb tracks on my side decks near
> the
>>>>> front of the cabin or rear foredeck.  Has anybody done this and if
> so
>>>>> how
>>>>> far forward of the lowers and inboard should they bolted to the
> deck?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks much,
>>>>> Glenn Dolce  #318
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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