[Public-List] Life lines
Glenn Brooks via Public-List
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Tue Jul 8 22:05:51 PDT 2014
John Claire, A friend of mine was bringing his Cal 39 back to Seward, Alaska from a cruise to New Zealand some years ago when his stanchion let loose and pitched him off the boat. He was on watch at the time and his wife was down below listening to music on her ear phones and reading a book. Hot lazy, sunny day in the South Pacific so John decided to lean back on his lifelines to look up at the mast head and promptly fell backwards over the high side of the boat. The lifelines were new but the stanchion base pulled out of the deck due to corroded fastenings. John is a very strong guy so hung on to the lifeline bight whilst trailing along the side of the boat in the water- doing 6+ knots. He shouted many times to call his wife on deck and slow the boat but she couldn't hear his cry for help because of the music in her ear buds. Eventually he was able to kick the hull, or maybe just bang up against it, as he got one leg out of the water and hooked on the rail. His wife sensed something was amiss and was quite surprised to see John, or rather John's arm and one foot looped over the top side of the rail. She got him back on board OK but he seriously strained his shoulder and arm muscles from hanging over the side of the boat. Took weeks to recover.
John pulled into Hawaii for one day to change out crew and made Seward three weeks latter after 80 some days at sea enroute from New Zealand.
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> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> I, and a couple of the repaired spots under Candy Cane's stanchion
> bases, agree wholeheartedly with that suggestion.
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> -K
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>> On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:41:49PM -0400, George Dinwiddie via Public-List wrote:
>> Better, don't lean on the lifelines.
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>>> On 7/8/14, 8:53 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
>>> And don't forget lifeline covers that increase the diameter significantly and make them cushy to lean on.
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>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>> I changed my old plastic life lines for spectra lifelines three or four years ago, as a test, and have been happy as a clam ever since. There is an interesting and long discussion on the cruising world forum about the high modulus fiber lifelines - basically spectra, dyneema, and or DuX brands. The international sail racing federation apparently recommends 5mm diameter (10,000# breaking strength) Dyneema or DuX, or equivalent in non coated wire.
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>>>> One huge advantage, I think, is that one can always pull the lifelines off and use as standing or running rigging in an emergency. So no more lugging around a bunch of nasty, heavy wire coils in the the bilge or wasting prime locker space whilst cruising the seven seas. Some of the local race boats have dropped hundreds of pounds of weight out of their rigging by replacing all wire with this stuff.
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>>>> Apparently The big concerns are using a proper splice that won't pull out, and that the fiber line must be turned around a 5:1 deadeye to retain max breaking strength. So 5mm line needs 25 mm deadeye -1" eye. Not a big deal... However, Looping around a pelican hook or other sharp radius reduces the breaking strength in half. Down to 4,500#. As that is the working load for lifting three bull moose off the ground, and the standard for pacific racing association life lines, I think I will be staying with the fiber lines.
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>>>> Glenn B
>>>> dolce 318
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>>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Bill Newman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking at replacing the lifelines on No. 233, plastic covered and at least 25 years old. They seem to be sound excepting a couple of cracks in the plastic and having only been in fresh water. I have been doing a little internet research and the current fashion seems to be stainless wire without the plastic covering, now required in some races such as the Lake Ontario 300 mile race and also there is a new type of rope which is non stretch, UV resistant and apparently very strong. The wire on boats I have seen is fairly skinny and looks like it would be very uncomfortable to handle. Any opinions on the subject will be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Newman
>>>>> Marion Rose III, No. 233
>>>>>
>>>>>
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