[Public-List] Life lines
C.B. Currier via Public-List
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Wed Jul 9 06:45:41 PDT 2014
Spectra line at 11 mm is capable of handling up to 21,500lbs.
More than adequate in the role of lifeline - with 11mm line you can
pickup an alberg30.
You will bend the stanchions before the line will break.
On 07/09/2014 09:22 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
> Gentlemen, gentlemen, I know I'll get flamed for this but....these strings
> around the top of those posts are LIFELINES. They need to offer some level
> of assurance or they shouldn't be on a sailboat, particularly one as
> capable as an Alberg. Would I go offshore, basically alone on deck without
> a harness, probably not - my wife makes me wear one when I go singlehanded
> cruising in Round Bay but that's me. In my racing days EVERY boat I sailed
> on we used the lifelines to lean on to read the tails from the leeward
> side, and yes, in alotta cases the spongy cushy things were there, or we'd
> stand on the top lifeline to adjust the pole or leechline...tell me you've
> never done this??? I still lean on mine all the time. Personally, if my
> lifelines were to the point of the stanchion bases yanking out of the deck
> if I even looked escance at them, I'd be backing them up with fender
> washers, more glass or whatever. Crappy stuff like that belongs on a
> powerboat or better yet, a Yugo.
>
>
> Flame on...
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> I tell crew members to pretend they're electrified.
>>
>> On 2014-07-08, at 11:41 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Better, don't lean on the lifelines.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/14, 8:53 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
>>>> And don't forget lifeline covers that increase the diameter
>> significantly and make them cushy to lean on.
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> I changed my old plastic life lines for spectra lifelines three or
>> four years ago, as a test, and have been happy as a clam ever since. There
>> is an interesting and long discussion on the cruising world forum about the
>> high modulus fiber lifelines - basically spectra, dyneema, and or DuX
>> brands. The international sail racing federation apparently recommends 5mm
>> diameter (10,000# breaking strength) Dyneema or DuX, or equivalent in non
>> coated wire.
>>>>> One huge advantage, I think, is that one can always pull the lifelines
>> off and use as standing or running rigging in an emergency. So no more
>> lugging around a bunch of nasty, heavy wire coils in the the bilge or
>> wasting prime locker space whilst cruising the seven seas. Some of the
>> local race boats have dropped hundreds of pounds of weight out of their
>> rigging by replacing all wire with this stuff.
>>>>> Apparently The big concerns are using a proper splice that won't pull
>> out, and that the fiber line must be turned around a 5:1 deadeye to retain
>> max breaking strength. So 5mm line needs 25 mm deadeye -1" eye. Not a big
>> deal... However, Looping around a pelican hook or other sharp radius
>> reduces the breaking strength in half. Down to 4,500#. As that is the
>> working load for lifting three bull moose off the ground, and the standard
>> for pacific racing association life lines, I think I will be staying with
>> the fiber lines.
>>>>> Glenn B
>>>>> dolce 318
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Bill Newman via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking at replacing the lifelines on No. 233, plastic covered
>> and at least 25 years old. They seem to be sound excepting a couple of
>> cracks in the plastic and having only been in fresh water. I have been
>> doing a little internet research and the current fashion seems to be
>> stainless wire without the plastic covering, now required in some races
>> such as the Lake Ontario 300 mile race and also there is a new type of rope
>> which is non stretch, UV resistant and apparently very strong. The wire on
>> boats I have seen is fairly skinny and looks like it would be very
>> uncomfortable to handle. Any opinions on the subject will be appreciated.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Newman
>>>>>> Marion Rose III, No. 233
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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