[Public-List] Play in rudder post

[George Dinwiddie via Public-List]

I was talking about the pin at the base of the rudder, that goes into the shoe. 

George 

Sent from a primitive pocket computer. Please assume all errors are due to that.

> On Jul 16, 2014, at 18:19, Michael Connolly via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, 
> 
> George can correct me if I'm wrong. But I think he was referring to the hinge pin failing on his boat, that is half way along the leading edge of the rudder, which caused much greater load on the fulcrum at the rudder shoe. 
> 
> 
> You asked about what eventually happens.  There have been many accounts on the Public-List over the years of failed or lost rudders on the Alberg 30. There are two pivot points on the Alberg 30 rudder below the water line. When one fails or there is excessive wear in one component the other has to take up the load, eventually neither is up to the job and the rudder is lost. 
> 
> In my experience I would agree with George, 1/8" play on a 1/2 diameter pivot is reason to take notice and inspect by disassembling.  It is convenient now while on the hard.  You will praise yourself later in the summer when you find you and the boat in high seas and a heavy blow. 
> 
> Michael 133 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
> To: "Dinwiddie, George" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 1:26:50 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Play in rudder post 
> 
> Just an anecdotal question, anyone actually have any experience when the pin does fail? I've had steering cable part (when a 45' boat T-bones a 60' boat you stop rather abruptly and tend to bend things up) and I've had a blade come off a folding prop, makes things shake rather dramatically until the engine is stopped ( not on an Alberg), but I've not had the pleasure of having the bottom pin let go, just wondering if there's any first hand knowledge out there? 
> 
> Wes 
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:18 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
>> 
>> Wes 
>> 
>>> On 7/16/14, 11:26 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote: 
>>> Het All, 
>>> 
>>> I just hauled my boat and of course there is ++some++ play! maybe an 
>>> eighth of an inch. Seems with this I can wait a while?
>> 
>> While you've got it out, I would pull the rudder shoe off and take a look. It's not that hard to do. 
>> 1. 1/8" is a fair percentage of a half-inch pin 
>> 2. It may not be the pin that's limiting the motion. The first time I checked mine, the pin was *completely gone*. The bottom rudder post had worn into the shoe, limiting the movement to ~3/16". 
>> 
>> See http://alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderShoe/ for more thoughts. 
>> 
>> - George 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  When I remember bygone days                         George Dinwiddie 
>>  I think how evening follows morn;            gdinwiddie at alberg30.org 
>>  So many I loved were not yet dead,           http://www.Alberg30.org 
>>  So many I love were not yet born.                          also see: 
>>               'The Middle' by Ogden Nash     http://idiacomputing.com 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> These businesses support your Association: 
>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
>> Please support them. 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Public-List mailing list 
>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> _______________________________________________ 
> These businesses support your Association: 
> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
> Please support them. 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Public-List mailing list 
> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> Please support them.
> _______________________________________________
> Public-List mailing list
> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org

 1405551938.0