[Public-List] Advice for A Newbie

[Mike Lehman]

We had to replace the cockpit sole on #655.

1. remove top layer - throw away
2. remove old core
3. replace core with high density foam, I like coosa board - the core is 
1/4"
4. install new cloth (2 layers) for the top
5. fair smooth (I like System 3 Quick fair epoxy fairing compound)
6. prime for painting (I use System 3 epoxy Yacht Primer...it's water based)
7. paint smooth areas with Brightside
8. mask off non-skid areas and paint non-skid with Kiwi-Grip




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-----Original Message----- 
From: Wes Gardner
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:58 AM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Advice for A Newbie

The only thing I would add is first, I'm not sure I'd even try doing it from 
below...Mr. Gravity will turn that job into a yucky mess in no time...I also 
don't think I'd mess with any gelcoat and just go directly to 
primer/paint/non-skid

Wes

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> On Jun 1, 2014, at 9:56 PM, George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
>> On 6/1/14, 8:40 PM, bobbohmer at gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I recently joined the ranks of A30 owners. I am aware of what most
>> would call a big issue with the boat. The majority of the  cockpit
>> floor is “soft”, so it needs to be repaired. I have experience with
>> the same sort of issue as I just finished replacing all of the core
>> material in the bottom of a fiberglass Jeep body. I realize that to
>> do this on a boat is going to be much more difficult, but I was
>> hoping that someone had dealt with the same problem and could offer
>> pointers that will make it easier. My biggest concern to this point
>> is the tiller post area. As I said most of the floor is soft, so I
>> envision removal of the whole “top” skin and removal and replacement
>> of all of the core. This would be followed by “tabbing” the removed
>> top skin back in place. Finally, gelcoat and some sort of all-grip. I
>> welcome any comments / pointers from the group.
>
> The cockpit sole is the first major glasswork I did on Calypso. Calypso is 
> a later model, so the cockpit was balsa cored. I imagine that yours has a 
> masonite core.
>
> On Calypso, I cut out the upper skin and dug out the remaining core. Then 
> I put in new Klegecel foam coring on a bed of slightly thickened resin and 
> laid up new fiberglass on top. Finally I faired the top surface, sanded it 
> flat, and painted it with Brightsides containing nonskid beads.
>
> That's the short version, leaving out the misadventures and the steps I 
> repeated two or three times. And the fact that it currently needs 
> repainting.
>
> On the older boats, there's a fiberglass tube around the rudder shaft that 
> comes up to the cockpit sole. This tube is important, as it's what keeps 
> the water out of the boat.
>
> I've never thought much of the idea of removing the top skin and then 
> gluing it back in place. What gives cored fiberglass rigidity is the 
> "stress skin" effect of having two skins firmly bonded to the core and 
> each other. I doubt you'll achieve the same bonding with old glass.
>
> It's hard to work on the cockpit sole. There's no good place to be, and 
> you're constantly reaching down. It's a very inconvenient place to work.
>
> Another possibility is to work from the bottom. This will have it's own 
> challenges, such as working space and gravity trying to pull your new work 
> back off, but it can be done. I would particularly recommend this if you 
> want to salvage the existing non-skid.
>
>>
>> On another note, I have been informed that the boat ( Hull # 76 ) was
>> named “Kittiwake” up until at least 2002. I don’t have a problem with
>> the name, but as it doesn’t have a visible name ( painted over at
>> some point ), I would like some feedback on the subject of renaming a
>> boat. Is it bad karma ( I’m not superstitious ), but I don’t want to
>> anger the gods of the seas.
>
> I don't have experience with renaming. We kept the name Calypso from the 
> previous owner.
>
> - George
>
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