[Public-List] Rudder stuffing box

[Wes Gardner via Public-List]

Thank you John Boor for pointing out the facts that had already been
pointed out in the original post :-)  The boat has wheel steering....and
therefore a quadrant and cabling and all that....gee, why didn't I think of
that.  I kept thinking about and looking at what my boat has...see what
that "thinking" thing gets you.  Knowing the facts that, of course, we
already knew, sounds like a haul-out....

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:08 AM, John Boor via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> John's origional posting mentioned that he has wheel steering thus the
> rudder tube had to be modified to accept the quadrant.  Not having a lot
> of room beneth the cockpit floor the tube will have to be quiet short, so
> perhaps pulling the boat and installing a stuffing box will cure the
> problem.
>
> John Boor
> Ex #380 MAHSEER
>
> > John,
> > Sounds like someone has modified your boat to "upgrade" this item. On the
> > early non-liner boats it is my understanding that the outer tube has no
> > gland nut or packing, but extends up through the cockpit sole. Thus if
> any
> > seawater comes out of the outer tube it spills into the cockpit and then
> > out the scuppers/drains in the cockpit. In your situation and on the
> liner
> > boats which have a stuffing box on the rudder tube, this outer tube
> > terminates with the nut which is above the lower hull but below the
> > cockpit sole. Any water leaking here goes into the bilge, not so good.
> > Â
> > Some folks feel that having a stuffing box on the rudder tube is an
> > upgrade. If it is not regularly serviced or buggered up like yours then
> it
> > is indeed a negative. The non-liner boats require no attention to the
> > stuffing box as there is none.  Any water coming up the tube harmlessly
> > flows into the cockpit at a rate slow enough for the drains to take it
> > overboard.  In both styles of boats rarely but sometimes the rudder
> tube
> > becomes detached from the hull or wears through from friction of the
> > rudder stock against the fiberglass tube, much water can then enter the
> > bilge.
> > Â
> > I agree with Mike Lehman and you after you came to your senses, no
> matter
> > how you address the situation, do you want to undermine the structure of
> > the upper rudder post by making it two pieces joined by a coupling.
> > Â
> > Would it be possible to split the die you plan to chase the threads with
> > and save yourself the trouble of a haul-out?  If the threads in the nut
> > are OK then you are home free.
> > Michael #133Â
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "John Johnston via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:43:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder stuffing box
> >
> > Mike and Wes - I may have erred by describing my situation as a stuffing
> > box. What I have is an outer tube that is glassed into the hull. The top
> > of it is threaded. Through that tube runs the rudderstock. Where the
> > rudderstock emerges inside the hull there is a packing nut that has room
> > for flax packing, I believe. I don't know the condition of the threads of
> > the nut, but the threads on the outer tube are mangled, and I had no
> > success with the thread file. I have overcome my extreme reluctance to
> > haul out, after having been in for so short a time, but I agree that a
> > haulout is called for, and drop the rudder. I think that once I rethread
> > the outer tube and get a new nut and some packing all will be well. I
> also
> > agree with Mike that it would be foolish to introduce a potential cause
> > for failure. It was a hasty and desperate grasping of straws. A good
> > night's sleep restored some reason. There is no excuse or reason for
> doing
> > a poor job. Sorry if I mangled the nomenclature - I a
> > Â m actually doing the right things with this boat, but only after
> > exhausting all other options. Thanks for your good advice - John
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