[Public-List] New or Used Rudder

Michael Connolly via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Wed Sep 10 08:43:06 PDT 2014



Brad, 

If the upper rudder post is intact then I believe that you far better ahead to repair what you have. Especially since your already have the major bronze components needed. 

Michael #133 

----- Original Message -----

From: "George Dinwiddie via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:17:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] New or Used Rudder 

Brad, 

Your pictures are posted on 
http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/RudderOnQuerencia/ 

You may also want to look at 
http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderVarieties/ 

  - George 

On 9/8/14 3:40 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List wrote: 
> Brad, 
> 
> The email list strips attachments for safety, but if you send them 
> directly to me, I'll be glad to post them to the website. 
> 
> BTW, when I did the repair mentioned in 
> http://alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderShoe/ I chiseled out the 
> foam inside the rudder and removed the lower rudder post completely. I 
> reinstalled it with epoxy and glass cloth, and then filled the gap where 
> the foam used to be with epoxy thickened with lightweight filler. I 
> suspect you won't have too much difficulty repairing what you have. 
> 
>   - George 
> 
> On 9/6/14 1:00 PM, Bradford Cooke via Public-List wrote: 
>> Hi, 
>> It has been a busy week, so I want to thank you all for great ideas.  I 
>> think you are right about the re-build of what I already have.  I have a 
>> new shoe and gudgeon and pintle  already.  I am attaching some 
>> pictures to 
>> show what happened: basically, after she ran aground the tide snapped the 
>> connections between the rudder and keel, the rudder shoe having been 
>> ripped 
>> off by the rocks on the way in.  My theory, as I did not see any damage 
>> that morning. 
>> 
>> Anyway, the lower rudder post with the pin is loose, and the corner of 
>> the 
>> fiberglass rudder (between the support strap and the rudder post with pin 
>> is also loose. 
>> 
>> The area of the keel where the rudder shoe goes is pretty well chewed-up, 
>> and will need re-building to be able to support the shoe when 
>> re-installed. 
>> 
>> Thanks again. 
>> Brad Cooke 
>> #109 
>> Querencia 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Adams via Public-List < 
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Agree - exactly what I was thinking. Getting a whole new rudder made 
>>> would 
>>> be expensive. However, with all the excellent epoxies, one can repair 
>>> to as 
>>> good as new. 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________ 
>>>> From: Glenn via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
>>>> To: Bradford Cooke <bradfordcooke1 at gmail.com>; Alberg 30 Public List -- 
>>> open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:37 PM 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] New or Used Rudder 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Brad,  any other damage to the rudder besides the lower pin area? 
>>>> Do you 
>>> still have the shoe in place? 
>>>> 
>>>> Seems like you could have a new lower shaft and pin machined from round 
>>> stock and reglass the bottom of the rudder together.  On my boat the FG 
>>> skin is less than 1/4" thick- the rest is foam core.  Which you could 
>>> grind 
>>> down and lay up new more cheaply than building a whole new rudder. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Bradford Cooke via Public-List < 
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Skippers: 
>>>>> As a follow-up to my prior emails, I am interested in replacing my 
>>> rudder 
>>>>> that got damaged in November, when my boat ran aground (mooring lines 
>>>>> parted).  The lower tip is broken, where the pin fits into the rudder 
>>>>> shoe.  Cost issues involved in the repair indicate that a replacement 
>>> might 
>>>>> be the most cost effective way to go. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone has a suggestion as to where I might find a rudder 
>>>>> replacement 
>>>>> (new or used), I would be most grateful 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely, 
>>>>> Brad Cooke 
>>>>> Querencia 
>>>>> #109 
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