[Public-List] Dodgers

Wed Sep 10 11:59:33 PDT 2014

I bought Mike Lehman's old dodger.  He has a sea hood and I do not. It works just fine keeping water out of the companionway.  The forward edge lies on the slider when open.

Mike #272

Michael J. Meinhold
Senior Naval Architect, Leidos, Inc.
4321 Collington Road, Bowie, MD 21076
michael.j.meinhold at leidos.com
301 352 4734 office  240 350 6974 cell

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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Dodgers

For those that bravely made your own dodgers, how did you allow for the
hatch sliding? One canvas guy I talked to was planning in fabricating a bar
that goes over the hatch, and the canvas would attach to that bar. I was
thinking that the canvas attaching to the cabin roof on the sides of the
hatch would be enough to hold the whole thing down.

Thanks for the input on this, it's encouraging to know that while
difficult, it can be done.  I figure that a pro can do this for $5k and it
will look great. If I can do this for $1000 in materials and my spare time,
I'd be willing to live with some imperfections.  When I look at dodgers on
other peoples boats, everyone I look a t looks fine to me.

-Jeff

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Darcy Haldeman -DHMH- via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Last year we had a frame made by Iverson in California.  A little pricey,
> but we got the side grab rails, the aft grab rail and forward and aft
> support struts.  It is very, very stable.  I did the canvas myself.  A bit
> challenging, but do-able.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > I reckon dodgers are expensive because to make them well, one needs
> skilled
> > people with appropriate equipment.... I think they're worth what they
> cost.
> >
> > Gord
> > 426 Surprise
> >
> >
> > On 10/09/14 11:17 AM, "Bill Wallace via Public-List"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The harbour freight hydraulic bender looks like it would be a better
> > choice -
> > > the SS tubing is not easy to bend cleanly.  The wooden bender I made
> > worked,
> > > but was very hard to control the location and amount of bend, and also
> > hard to
> > > avoid crimping the tubing.  The harbour freight one is only $99 and
> > comes with
> > > dies the right size for the tubing, which should mostly prevent
> crimping
> > and
> > > form a nice radius.  If you bent electrical conduit first, then you
> > could use
> > > it as a comparison form to figure out how far to bend - just that the
> > first
> > > bend would probably need a different amount of springback so you would
> > likely
> > > ruin 1 piece of SS.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:03:55 AM, Jeffrey via Public-List
> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Guys,
> > >
> > > I've looked at those Sailrite kits. I don't know enough yet about the
> > > details to know if they are any good or not.  Anyone on this list
> > actually
> > > seen one in person?
> > >
> > > Bill, thanks for the advice on the tubing. I bet I could handle making
> up
> > > something to bend tubing. Good idea. We don't have a Metals Supermarket
> > > around here, I'd need to shop online or look for an alternative.
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seagrass. #116
> > > Boothbay Harbor, Maine
> > > http://sailboatseagrass.com/
> > >
> > > <http://instagram.com/jfongemie>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Bill Wallace <wayfarer3134 at yahoo.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You could consider sailrite - they will bend the frames to your
> > >> measurements and send them to you, cut into appropriate length pieces,
> > >> which get re-assembled.
> > >>
> > >> Alternatively, I have bent SS tubing from metal supermarket
> successfully
> > >> using a home made pipe bender.  It is possible a bender for conduit
> > would
> > >> work (about $80 from Lowes).  The problem with this is that you need
> to
> > >> bend to the right angle the FIRST time - no real second chances, but
> the
> > >> cost isn't unreasonable to buy enough pipe to learn on.  You could
> also
> > >> consider starting with metal conduit to get the angles/learning right,
> > then
> > >> move to SS.  It is just that SS is MUCH harder and the spring back
> > amount
> > >> is different.  If the conduit bender doesn't give you enough
> leverage, I
> > >> would guess that putting a pipe over the handle to form an 8' handle
> > would
> > >> work.  I have a spare piece of pipe at home and the conduit bender, so
> > let
> > >> me know and I can try and let you know if the conduit bender is strong
> > >> enough to manage the SS.
> > >>
> > >> After you have the frame built, then there are lots of instructions on
> > how
> > >> to make the covering.  Basically you tape a cover together out of
> rolls
> > of
> > >> pattern paper, then cut along the tape lines and use the paper as a
> > pattern
> > >> for your dodger.
> > >>
> > >> Bill.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:20:18 AM, Jeffrey via
> Public-List
> > <
> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I'd love to have a dodger for my boat, but the cost makes my hart
> stop.
> > >> I've just been quoted $4800 for a dodger!
> > >>
> > >> Anyone have dodger frame they would be willing to part with? I may try
> > to
> > >> make my own.
> > >>
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >> Seagrass. #116
> > >> Boothbay Harbor, Maine
> > >> http://sailboatseagrass.com/
> > >>
> > >> <http://instagram.com/jfongemie>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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