[Public-List] Dodgers

Wed Sep 10 15:59:33 PDT 2014

Fill the tubing with sand and it won't crimp.
MichaelGrosh
#220
On Sep 10, 2014 5:27 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> As mentioned by others, getting the canvas to fit TIGHTLY on the frame is
> not skill...it is ART.  I have watched Chris Ford down here in Annapolis
> pull patterns for years.  They use the technique as outlined using paper
> patterns, some spring clamps and voila! Of course they've done it a
> thousand times.  Like I mentioned earlier, I got my tubing bent and then
> bought the end fittings, etc., used the brown paper pattern technique (the
> paper doesn't have to be brown, but hey, maybe there's some tradition
> there...:-), transferred it to Sunbrella and then gave it all to my wife
> :-)
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Meinhold, Mike J. via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > I bought Mike Lehman's old dodger.  He has a sea hood and I do not. It
> > works just fine keeping water out of the companionway.  The forward edge
> > lies on the slider when open.
> >
> > Mike #272
> >
> > Michael J. Meinhold
> > Senior Naval Architect, Leidos, Inc.
> > 4321 Collington Road, Bowie, MD 21076
> > michael.j.meinhold at leidos.com
> > 301 352 4734 office  240 350 6974 cell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeffrey via Public-List [mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 01:06 PM
> > To: Darcy Haldeman -DHMH- <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov>; Alberg 30
> Public
> > List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Dodgers
> >
> > For those that bravely made your own dodgers, how did you allow for the
> > hatch sliding? One canvas guy I talked to was planning in fabricating a
> bar
> > that goes over the hatch, and the canvas would attach to that bar. I was
> > thinking that the canvas attaching to the cabin roof on the sides of the
> > hatch would be enough to hold the whole thing down.
> >
> > Thanks for the input on this, it's encouraging to know that while
> > difficult, it can be done.  I figure that a pro can do this for $5k and
> it
> > will look great. If I can do this for $1000 in materials and my spare
> time,
> > I'd be willing to live with some imperfections.  When I look at dodgers
> on
> > other peoples boats, everyone I look a t looks fine to me.
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Darcy Haldeman -DHMH- via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Last year we had a frame made by Iverson in California.  A little
> pricey,
> > > but we got the side grab rails, the aft grab rail and forward and aft
> > > support struts.  It is very, very stable.  I did the canvas myself.  A
> > bit
> > > challenging, but do-able.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I reckon dodgers are expensive because to make them well, one needs
> > > skilled
> > > > people with appropriate equipment.... I think they're worth what they
> > > cost.
> > > >
> > > > Gord
> > > > 426 Surprise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/09/14 11:17 AM, "Bill Wallace via Public-List"
> > > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The harbour freight hydraulic bender looks like it would be a
> better
> > > > choice -
> > > > > the SS tubing is not easy to bend cleanly.  The wooden bender I
> made
> > > > worked,
> > > > > but was very hard to control the location and amount of bend, and
> > also
> > > > hard to
> > > > > avoid crimping the tubing.  The harbour freight one is only $99 and
> > > > comes with
> > > > > dies the right size for the tubing, which should mostly prevent
> > > crimping
> > > > and
> > > > > form a nice radius.  If you bent electrical conduit first, then you
> > > > could use
> > > > > it as a comparison form to figure out how far to bend - just that
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > bend would probably need a different amount of springback so you
> > would
> > > > likely
> > > > > ruin 1 piece of SS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:03:55 AM, Jeffrey via
> Public-List
> > > > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've looked at those Sailrite kits. I don't know enough yet about
> the
> > > > > details to know if they are any good or not.  Anyone on this list
> > > > actually
> > > > > seen one in person?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill, thanks for the advice on the tubing. I bet I could handle
> > making
> > > up
> > > > > something to bend tubing. Good idea. We don't have a Metals
> > Supermarket
> > > > > around here, I'd need to shop online or look for an alternative.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Seagrass. #116
> > > > > Boothbay Harbor, Maine
> > > > > http://sailboatseagrass.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://instagram.com/jfongemie>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Bill Wallace <
> > wayfarer3134 at yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You could consider sailrite - they will bend the frames to your
> > > > >> measurements and send them to you, cut into appropriate length
> > pieces,
> > > > >> which get re-assembled.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alternatively, I have bent SS tubing from metal supermarket
> > > successfully
> > > > >> using a home made pipe bender.  It is possible a bender for
> conduit
> > > > would
> > > > >> work (about $80 from Lowes).  The problem with this is that you
> need
> > > to
> > > > >> bend to the right angle the FIRST time - no real second chances,
> but
> > > the
> > > > >> cost isn't unreasonable to buy enough pipe to learn on.  You could
> > > also
> > > > >> consider starting with metal conduit to get the angles/learning
> > right,
> > > > then
> > > > >> move to SS.  It is just that SS is MUCH harder and the spring back
> > > > amount
> > > > >> is different.  If the conduit bender doesn't give you enough
> > > leverage, I
> > > > >> would guess that putting a pipe over the handle to form an 8'
> handle
> > > > would
> > > > >> work.  I have a spare piece of pipe at home and the conduit
> bender,
> > so
> > > > let
> > > > >> me know and I can try and let you know if the conduit bender is
> > strong
> > > > >> enough to manage the SS.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> After you have the frame built, then there are lots of
> instructions
> > on
> > > > how
> > > > >> to make the covering.  Basically you tape a cover together out of
> > > rolls
> > > > of
> > > > >> pattern paper, then cut along the tape lines and use the paper as
> a
> > > > pattern
> > > > >> for your dodger.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>   On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:20:18 AM, Jeffrey via
> > > Public-List
> > > > <
> > > > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi everyone,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'd love to have a dodger for my boat, but the cost makes my hart
> > > stop.
> > > > >> I've just been quoted $4800 for a dodger!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyone have dodger frame they would be willing to part with? I may
> > try
> > > > to
> > > > >> make my own.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jeff
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Seagrass. #116
> > > > >> Boothbay Harbor, Maine
> > > > >> http://sailboatseagrass.com/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <http://instagram.com/jfongemie>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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