[Public-List] Motor Replacement continued

Wes Gardner via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Fri Aug 21 07:52:57 PDT 2015


My mechanic told me that the most likely candidate is the Yanmar. Although apparently the original engine beds are gone and have been replaced to kinda fit the Vetus. We'll see over the next week or so what actually needs to be done to rebuild the Vetus and then go from there.

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> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Fraser Kittson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> My 1978 A30 came factory with a Volvo MD7A if you can find on there a great motor. Drops rite in. 
> 
> Fraser Kittson
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Jim Davis via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>  A few thoughts on replacement engines.  Back when I owned #240 I put a
>>  Yanmar 2GM in it.  This works well on the pre-liner boats, but on a
>>  liner boat the engine room pan gets in the way as the Yanmar is too
>>  deep.  Westerbeake and Beta are a better option in the liner boats and
>>  if I were to do a repower today I would go with the Beta.  Both
>>  Westerbeake and Beta are as near drop in replacements for the Atomic 4
>>  as you will find and are made on the same Kabota block.  When I did my
>>  repower Beta was the "new kid on the block", but they have now been
>>  around for a couple decades and actively marketing their product.
>>  http://www.betamarinenc.com/
>>  http://www.westerbeke.com/pages/westerbekeengines.htm
>> Jim Davis
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>> 
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>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:37:40 -0400
>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List
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>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
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>> Wes,
>> 
>> Don't know what other folks have.
>> #262 has a Yanmar 2GM20F installed by the previous owner, Tom Baker.  Tom
>> got two from Florida
>> #11 (?) Woody has the other 2GM20F from Tom, as far as I know.
>> #247 and #550, which I am familiar with from racing on them, both have
>> Atomic 4's
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That sounds correct...I'd just make doubly sure that your oil pressure
>>> gauge sender and the one for the alarm (if so installed) are all properly
>>> done. This will include ALL blocks built outside of the States.  By the
>>> way, what motor do most folks have (other than the original A4)?  I may
>>> have to consider an alternative if mine can't be rebuilt.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Seems that Catalina folk have run into the problem of threads sizes as
>>>> well as wanting a gauge vs a normally-closed switch.
>>>> [1]http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-f
>> or-yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>> From looking around a bit it appears that VDO calls the type with two
>>>> electrical terminals "floating ground" switch as opposed to "standard
>>>> ground" (shorted to engine block).
>>>> [2]http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Good article...could have saved me several grand.  A note about the oil
>>>>> pressure sender, when it blows out of the side of the motor, no alarm will
>>>>> sound because it needs the ground from the nipple.  The way to avoid this
>>>>> is to get a sender that has TWO terminals and ground the ground to the
>>>>> motor somewhere, that way, when your sender blows out of the side of the
>>>>> motor, you'll get an alarm (if it's hooked up)...mine was also not hooked
>>>>> up but wouldn't have worked anyway...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was reading earlier this week about a oil pressure senders and the
>>>>>> different threads involved.  1/8" NPT vs 1/8 PT on a Yanmar engine.
>>>>>> [3]http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressu
>> re-gauge-and-sender/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jonathan
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-for-yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>  2. http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>  3. http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressure-gauge-and-sender/
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