[Public-List] Interior bulkhead thickness

Bill Boyle via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Sat Aug 22 14:51:14 PDT 2015


I have a small hole where a screw was so I stuck a wire through the hole and measured it.       From: "meinhold272 at gmail.com" <meinhold272 at gmail.com>
 To: Bill Boyle <wpb1210 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [Public-List] Interior bulkhead thickness
   
Thanks Bill
Finally getting around to hanging my Cole wood stove 

Mike
Rinn Duin 272

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> On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Bill Boyle <wpb1210 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Mine is 7/8 inch  non liner
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:30 PM, via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know offhand the thickness of the bulkhead between main cabin and the hanging locker?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A marine engine restorer in Toronto told me the two-cylinder models were
>>> once called 'Nagasaki Knockers' connecting the sound with the place they're
>>> built.  He also said they're good engines.
>>> 
>>> Just back from a bittersweet session salvaging cabin cabinetry from a
>>> Folkboat that is facing being cut up at a friend's boat yard.  The poor old
>>> boat, which once belonged to a dear friend of mine, was brought to the yard
>>> for restoration.  The owner blanched at the cost and abandoned her.  She's
>>> really in dreadful condition and even when new, was an odd version of her
>>> type so she's at the end of the road.
>>> 
>>> Well parts of her will live on in my Folkboat...and her old folding table
>>> will go aboard SURPRISE.
>>> 
>>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21/08/15 5:48 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I understand and do recall from sailing in a J30 that the two cylinder Yanmars
>>>> did create a "certain note." My Vetus was pretty quite I guess, my engine
>>>> compartment has no sound insulation
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Bill Boyle <wpb1210 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope Yanmar has improved the noise level of their motors.  We have a 2qm15
>>>>> installed in Slainte #129.  It was done in the early 80's by a previous
>>>>> owner.  I recently replaced all the insulation in the motor box but the db
>>>>> level is still high.  Idling  and low speed are the worst. The yanmar
>>>>> "Hammer" is in full play.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
>>>>> all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>> Cc: Jim Davis <a30240 at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wes,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you would like to see a Yanmar 2GM20F installed in a 1967 Alberg, please
>>>>> let me know.  There is one aboard #262.
>>>>> The new Yanmar's, 2YM15 and 3YM20, have the raw water pump installed with
>>>>> the impeller facing forward and accessible.  Previously you had to remove
>>>>> the pump from the engine to access the impeller.  The oil dipstick has been
>>>>> relocated to the front side of the engine from the starboard side.  On the
>>>>> other hand, the position of the oil filter is worse, seems to be back where
>>>>> the oil dip stick was.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was wondering which boat you had.  Tried to find you in the A30BoatHistory
>>>>> spreadsheet without success.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, by the way, my boat is a non-liner boat built in '67-#196, so I can
>>>>>> assume that at one point it did have the Atomic4, it still has the shift
>>>>>> linkage cross-brace back behind the motor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Fraser Kittson via Public-List <
>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My 1978 A30 came factory with a Volvo MD7A if you can find on there a
>>>>>> great motor. Drops rite in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fraser Kittson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Jim Davis via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A few thoughts on replacement engines.  Back when I owned #240 I put a
>>>>>>>> Yanmar 2GM in it.  This works well on the pre-liner boats, but on a
>>>>>>>> liner boat the engine room pan gets in the way as the Yanmar is too
>>>>>>>> deep.  Westerbeake and Beta are a better option in the liner boats and
>>>>>>>> if I were to do a repower today I would go with the Beta.  Both
>>>>>>>> Westerbeake and Beta are as near drop in replacements for the Atomic 4
>>>>>>>> as you will find and are made on the same Kabota block.  When I did my
>>>>>>>> repower Beta was the "new kid on the block", but they have now been
>>>>>>>> around for a couple decades and actively marketing their product.
>>>>>>>> http://www.betamarinenc.com/
>>>>>>>> http://www.westerbeke.com/pages/westerbekeengines.htm
>>>>>>>> Jim Davis
>>>>>>>> Privateer Isa Lei
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If man does find the solution for world peace it will be the most
>>>>>> revolutionary
>>>>>>>> reversal of his record we have ever known.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> George C. Marshall
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:37:40 -0400
>>>>>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List
>>>>>>>>  <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>>>>>  <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
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>>>>>> 1cKioVt0HMEgfRJQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don't know what other folks have.
>>>>>>>> #262 has a Yanmar 2GM20F installed by the previous owner, Tom Baker.
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>> got two from Florida
>>>>>>>> #11 (?) Woody has the other 2GM20F from Tom, as far as I know.
>>>>>>>> #247 and #550, which I am familiar with from racing on them, both have
>>>>>>>> Atomic 4's
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That sounds correct...I'd just make doubly sure that your oil pressure
>>>>>>>>> gauge sender and the one for the alarm (if so installed) are all
>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>>> done. This will include ALL blocks built outside of the States.  By the
>>>>>>>>> way, what motor do most folks have (other than the original A4)?  I may
>>>>>>>>> have to consider an alternative if mine can't be rebuilt.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Seems that Catalina folk have run into the problem of threads sizes as
>>>>>>>>>> well as wanting a gauge vs a normally-closed switch.
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-f
>>>>>>>> or-yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>>>>>> From looking around a bit it appears that VDO calls the type with two
>>>>>>>>>> electrical terminals "floating ground" switch as opposed to "standard
>>>>>>>>>> ground" (shorted to engine block).
>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Wes Gardner <
>>>>>> wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Good article...could have saved me several grand.  A note about the
>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>>>>>> pressure sender, when it blows out of the side of the motor, no
>>>>>> alarm will
>>>>>>>>>>> sound because it needs the ground from the nipple.  The way to avoid
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> is to get a sender that has TWO terminals and ground the ground to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> motor somewhere, that way, when your sender blows out of the side of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> motor, you'll get an alarm (if it's hooked up)...mine was also not
>>>>>> hooked
>>>>>>>>>>> up but wouldn't have worked anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was reading earlier this week about a oil pressure senders and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> different threads involved.  1/8" NPT vs 1/8 PT on a Yanmar engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressu
>>>>>>>> re-gauge-and-sender/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-for
>>>>>> -yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressure-g
>>>>>> auge-and-sender/
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>> Alberg 30 #262
>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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