[Public-List] Tiller Pilots on A

[Gordon Laco via Public-List]

Good morning Harry, 

A C&C 27 would require more steering than an Alberg 30...  The former is beamier with a fin keel and spade rudder design configuration.   This sort of boat has less wetted surface in the water and more agile helm response at the cost of poorer course holding ability. 

The Alberg 30 is narrow hulled, with a full keel and attached rudder; a combination which results in more stable steering characteristics. 

The C&C 27, while lighter in displacement, will require more energetic steering more often...

The boat I described in my earlier response was similar, and the device we used was an Autohelm 2000.  

Gord #426 Surprise

PS the Toronto Int'l Boat Show is looming... I'll be in my Epifanes Yacht Coatings/ Voyager Self Steering  booth again and would be glad to meet any of you who might come by.  


On 2015-12-27, at 8:07 AM, Harry Black via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Thank you for that information Kirk. It makes me really puzzled why the S1 I got simply started to drift off course  almost every time I used it. I gave it to an electronics person but he said it was not able to be fixed. Told me it was too small for my C and C 27 which is much lighter than the A 30.
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> Harry Black
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Kirk Little via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> I installed a Raymarine S1 tiller pilot on Salsa in 2008 and it is still working well.  Most sailing and offshore work is delegated to the windvane but most motoring, and shorter or light wind trips have been with the tiller pilot, she must have around 5000nm on her and still working well.  I have noticed that she struggles in moderate wind or with an unbalanced sail plan more than before as the motor and gears are aging.  I've got my eye on the S2 or S1GT? motor/arm.  The one with the slightly larger motor.  Its worth mentioning that initially, it used a lot of power when off shore, like many autopilots on sailboats it tried to correct for roll on each wave which is a wasted effort.  There is a dealer setting (maybe for the yawl sensor?) you can change between 1-3 and the manual warns not to put this setting to 0.   Once I finally put this setting to 0 I found the thing steered better and used 1/2 the power.  Sadly the newer raymarine computers/controllers are less program
> ma
>> ble and on my last delivery the newest Raymarine controller overworked the new autopilot motor to failure even though we babied it the entire 5000 miles.  I still love my old S1.  They key to making these things last is not asking them to work with big loads.      
>> -Kirk
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