[Public-List] Tiller Pilot

Greg Roberts via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Wed Dec 30 19:56:05 PST 2015


    
I have one of the smaller Raymarine tiller pilots that i use during sail adjustments, light air, and motoring. Motoring solo from San Diego to Catalina without one is just a grind.
A few years back we lost a boat n crew at night during the Newport to Ensenada race. It's not confirmed but the evidence suggests the boat was on auto and aimed at or "thru" the coronado islands. A crew member was found north of the islands and rest below deck...
A hard reminder about setting way points near objects...
Greg


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   1. Re: Electronic tiller (Michael Grosh via Public-List)
   2. Re: Electronic tiller (Jay Davenport via Public-List)
   3. Re: Electronic tiller (Jay Davenport via Public-List)
   4. Re: Electronic tiller (George Dinwiddie via Public-List)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:18:15 -0500
From: Michael Grosh via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
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Someone on this thread mentioned having the autopilot linked to a chart
plotter to automatically follow routes. I'm not sure that is such a good
idea. The idea of the boat changing course without adult supervision just
seems a little sketchy.
The boat I work on has the whole electronic package networked-plotter, AIS,
depth finder, radars, AWI, GPS, and probably other stuff I don't know
about. Oh yeah, Sirius radio ostensibly for the weather function. My
company disables the route following capability through the whole fleet.
Granted, a 400' tow running as a wannabe skynet is a little out of our
discussion range, but still...at least, not without collision avoidance
software. I guess if they have it on  cars it can be on boats too
Hopefully I'll be retired before my job  category gets eliminated.

MichaelGrosh
#220
On Dec 29, 2015 1:36 PM, "via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
wrote:

> I have a simrad TP 32 and it works well. My problem is that I could
> not get it to talk to my Standard Horizon chartplotter. I am fairly
> sure I have it wired correctly, but have given up on the connection
> for now.
> David, 432
>
>         -----------------------------------------From: "Harry Black via
> Public-List"
>
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:14:54 -0500
> Subject: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
>
>  Has anyone had any successful experience with tiller pilots on the
> A30? I had a Raymarine on my old C and C 27 and it never lasted all
> that long. I am told by Genco that a Simrad TO32 would work on the
> Alberg 30. Does anyone have any experience with them? I wonder whether
> the height of the tiller might be a problem. Anyinfo would be much
> appreciated.
>
>  Harry Black
>  Hull # 63
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:54:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jay Davenport via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
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My Navico (Simrad) tiller pilot is wired to my Garmin chartplotter. It will hold a bearing, go to a waypoint, or follow a route. When following a route, it is not fully automatic.?
As the boat approaches a waypoint in the route, where a turn is needed, the tiller pilot beeps. At this point, the boat continues straight ahead until the watch stander presses a button on the tiller pilot to confirm that a turn may be safely made (there is no boat, navigation aid, etc. in the way).?
The tiller pilot then makes the turn towards the next ?waypoint, and the boat continues on the rest of the route. Of course, using a tiller pilot, with or without routing functions, requires a full time, alert, watch stander.
During the 17 years I have used this tiller pilot, including it's routing function, I have found it very useful, especially when single-handing. I now consider it a necessary part of my cruising gear.??Jay Davenport 



      From: Michael Grosh via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
 To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>; dterrell1 at charter.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
   
Someone on this thread mentioned having the autopilot linked to a chart
plotter to automatically follow routes. I'm not sure that is such a good
idea. The idea of the boat changing course without adult supervision just
seems a little sketchy.
The boat I work on has the whole electronic package networked-plotter, AIS,
depth finder, radars, AWI, GPS, and probably other stuff I don't know
about. Oh yeah, Sirius radio ostensibly for the weather function. My
company disables the route following capability through the whole fleet.
Granted, a 400' tow running as a wannabe skynet is a little out of our
discussion range, but still...at least, not without collision avoidance
software. I guess if they have it on? cars it can be on boats too
Hopefully I'll be retired before my job? category gets eliminated.

MichaelGrosh
#220
On Dec 29, 2015 1:36 PM, "via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
wrote:

> I have a simrad TP 32 and it works well. My problem is that I could
> not get it to talk to my Standard Horizon chartplotter. I am fairly
> sure I have it wired correctly, but have given up on the connection
> for now.
> David, 432
>
>? ? ? ? -----------------------------------------From: "Harry Black via
> Public-List"
>
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:14:54 -0500
> Subject: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
>
>? Has anyone had any successful experience with tiller pilots on the
> A30? I had a Raymarine on my old C and C 27 and it never lasted all
> that long. I am told by Genco that a Simrad TO32 would work on the
> Alberg 30. Does anyone have any experience with them? I wonder whether
> the height of the tiller might be a problem. Anyinfo would be much
> appreciated.
>
>? Harry Black
>? Hull # 63
>
>? Sent from my iPad
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 01:54:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jay Davenport via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
To: Michael Grosh <dickdurk at gmail.com>, 	Alberg 30 Public List -- open
	to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, 	"dterrell1 at charter.net"
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
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My Navico (Simrad) tiller pilot is wired to my Garmin chartplotter. It will hold a bearing, go to a waypoint, or follow a route. When following a route, it is not fully automatic.?
As the boat approaches a waypoint in the route, where a turn is needed, the tiller pilot beeps. At this point, the boat continues straight ahead until the watch stander presses a button on the tiller pilot to confirm that a turn may be safely made (there is no boat, navigation aid, etc. in the way).?
The tiller pilot then makes the turn towards the next ?waypoint, and the boat continues on the rest of the route. Of course, using a tiller pilot, with or without routing functions, requires a full time, alert, watch stander.
During the 17 years I have used this tiller pilot, including it's routing function, I have found it very useful, especially when single-handing. I now consider it a necessary part of my cruising gear.??Jay Davenport 



      From: Michael Grosh via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
 To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>; dterrell1 at charter.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
   
Someone on this thread mentioned having the autopilot linked to a chart
plotter to automatically follow routes. I'm not sure that is such a good
idea. The idea of the boat changing course without adult supervision just
seems a little sketchy.
The boat I work on has the whole electronic package networked-plotter, AIS,
depth finder, radars, AWI, GPS, and probably other stuff I don't know
about. Oh yeah, Sirius radio ostensibly for the weather function. My
company disables the route following capability through the whole fleet.
Granted, a 400' tow running as a wannabe skynet is a little out of our
discussion range, but still...at least, not without collision avoidance
software. I guess if they have it on? cars it can be on boats too
Hopefully I'll be retired before my job? category gets eliminated.

MichaelGrosh
#220
On Dec 29, 2015 1:36 PM, "via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
wrote:

> I have a simrad TP 32 and it works well. My problem is that I could
> not get it to talk to my Standard Horizon chartplotter. I am fairly
> sure I have it wired correctly, but have given up on the connection
> for now.
> David, 432
>
>? ? ? ? -----------------------------------------From: "Harry Black via
> Public-List"
>
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:14:54 -0500
> Subject: [Public-List] Electronic tiller
>
>? Has anyone had any successful experience with tiller pilots on the
> A30? I had a Raymarine on my old C and C 27 and it never lasted all
> that long. I am told by Genco that a Simrad TO32 would work on the
> Alberg 30. Does anyone have any experience with them? I wonder whether
> the height of the tiller might be a problem. Anyinfo would be much
> appreciated.
>
>? Harry Black
>? Hull # 63
>
>? Sent from my iPad
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:02:54 -0500
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On 12/29/15 8:18 PM, Michael Grosh via Public-List wrote:
> Someone on this thread mentioned having the autopilot linked to a chart
> plotter to automatically follow routes. I'm not sure that is such a good
> idea. The idea of the boat changing course without adult supervision just
> seems a little sketchy.

Isn't that how the QE2 found a rock off Woods Hole some years back?

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