[Public-List] Seaflo Bilge Pumps

Fri Jul 24 06:12:57 PDT 2015

Thank you all for the information provided.
The community of Albergers is a wonderful source.

Sounds like I need to do the following:

   - replace the existing Rule 500 with a higher flow automatic pump.
    1500gph or larger.
   - replace the existing failed Whale Gusher 10 mk3 with a functioning
   manual bilge pump that is plumbed to a thruhull fitting located well above
   the water line for discharge of bilge water.  Preferably the pump should be
   operable from the helm.
   - If installing a second bilge pump, mount it higher in the bilge on a
   dedicated circuit with an alarm that can be heard over the sound of the
   engine and wake a sleeping sailor.
   - Avoid Rule-a-matic float switches....they tend to fail within a year
   of installation.

Two questions come to mind:

   1. Does anyone have experience with a SeaFlo 3000 GPH-01 bilge pump (
   http://www.seaflo.com/en/productDetail_288.html)
   2. Any recommendations for a bilge pump float switch ?   Found this one
   on Amazon "Bilge Pump Switch" from Aqualarm
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NO8T8LM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2ZIKXX4EPGB74

Jonathan

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Once upon a time it was regulation that Canadian yachts had to have their
> manual bilge pumps mounted so that the pump was operable by the helmsman
> without opening a hatch.  Surprise has one if these and I like everything
> about the concept.
>
> Gord #426 Surprise
>
> On 2015-07-20, at 7:39 PM, Jon Budington via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > I installed a Whale Gusher on Nimble. The pump is in the lazarette, and
> the handle comes out right near the tiller. I figured I could steer and
> pump at the same time this way. I store the handle in a spring clip inside
> the lazarette hatch. I haven't used my electric bilge pump since - I should
> probably test it.
> >
> > Jon Budington
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Amy & David Swanson via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would second all that Glenn said.  Seriously consider a manual pump
> that can be operated from the cockpit.  If you do go with 2 eletric pumps,
> mount the second (larger) one higher, and wire it on its own circuit (I
> wired mine to a different battery).  Make sure you have an alarm and/or LED
> indicator visible inside & in the cockpit so you can know if it comes on,
> especially when motoring. If it comes on, something is not right  &you want
> to know.  Also think about your discharge.  Our boat #219 had a single
> large Rule in the bilge with a hose you have to pull out of the cockpit
> locker & hang over the side.  Not cool, especially when I let it hang all
> the way down to the water & it back-siphoned half the river into the boat.
> >>
> >>> On 7/20/2015 1:05 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List wrote:
> >>> Hello Jonathan,
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations on your new boat!
> >>>
> >>> Personal opinion is 500 GPM is a bit small for a primary bilge pump
> aboard an a30.  I've used a manual Rule 1500 for many years on Dolce and
> have been happy with it.  One can put in a secondary electric pump, but
> some, including myself opt for a good second manual whale gusher pump-
> perhaps located in the cockpit.  A whale gusher moves a lot of water and
> does not depend on battery power to work.  If your batteries are in the
> bilge below the floor boards, your power source is at great risk if the
> boat experiences flooding.  Hence a whale gusher is a great alternative and
> back up.
> >>>
> >>> A wood of caution about Rule float switches - they are absolute
> garbage - with failure rates reported on the Cruising World forum as
> frequently as 6 to 9 months after installation.  I replaced something like
> 6 or 7 of these horrible things in 9 years on Dolce. The most recent lasted
> less than 9 months. So said enuf is enuf and  finally went with a solid
> state sensor  switch.  Have advocated boycotting Rule ever since.
> >>>
> >>> If you do install two electric switches, be sure to check the
> manufacturers recommended wiring plan.  They have to be wired In series I
> think, or better yet, with separate wring harness into separate breakers,
> to avoid the prospect of burning out the pumps when both are in operation.
> This happened to me after an inopportune grounding up in northern Canadian
> waters years ago when we sprung our garboard planks and started taking on
> copious water.  Both pumps shorted because of improper wiring method. No
> fun at all that day...
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Glenn B.
> >>> Boatless in Seattle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> After racing with TC Williams and Mike Nikolich in the Annapolis
> Yacht Club
> >>>> Wednesday Night Races and some weekend races, for about 15 years, I
> finally
> >>>> bought a boat!   Bought #262 from Tom Baker two months ago.  Thank
> you,
> >>>> Tom! Have been having a wonderful time sailing her and introducing my
> >>>> family to sailing.
> >>>>
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Jonathan M Bresler
Alberg 30 #262
Annapolis/Eastport MD