[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3028, Issue 2
Bill Newman via Public-List
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Mon May 4 19:22:17 PDT 2015
Re: Coil for early Model Atomic Four with Prestolite distributor.
George the current coil has an external resistor.
Bill Newman
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> 1. Atomic Four Parts (Bill Newman via Public-List)
> 2. Gooping up the stern tube (Kris Coward via Public-List)
> 3. Re: Gooping up the stern tube (Glenn Brooks via Public-List)
> 4. Re: Gooping up the stern tube (Mike Lehman via Public-List)
> 5. Re: Atomic Four Parts (George Dinwiddie via Public-List)
> 6. Re: Gooping up the stern tube (Kris Coward via Public-List)
> 7. Re: Gooping up the stern tube (anthony pensiero via Public-List)
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> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 16:00:54 -0400
> From: Bill Newman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Atomic Four Parts
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> Attention George Dinwiddie
>
> Geoge, I have been trying to buy some Atomic Four parts and happily found
> your part's list on the internet. Thank you very much. Do you happen to
> know any part numbers for a coil for the older style Atomic Four with a
> Prestolite distributor?
>
> Bill Newman
> Toronto, Canada
> Marion RoseIII, #233
> newman423 at rogers.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 16:18:29 -0400
> From: Kris Coward via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
> Message-ID: <20150504201828.GE2322 at melon.org>
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>
> So I'm in the midst of changing the cutlass bearing (as well as a bunch
> of other things) while I've been off the boat for the winter (yes, I
> know it's not winter anymore), and have come across a question:
>
> When I was unscrewing the casting that holds the cutlass bearing from
> the stern tube, the stern tube came out of the hull, instead of
> unscrewing from the casting. I've since gotten those 2 pieces apart with
> a vise grip and pipe wrench, but am thinking ahead to when I'll have to
> put it all back together.
>
> In particular, I'm thinking about how to fix the tube back in the hull
> at the right depth, and I'm thinking of smearing it with 5200 before
> jamming it in so that it stays put the next time the bearing needs to be
> changed. Where I'm sensing some difficulty is getting the tube/hull
> interface properly gooped up without having the goop also get into the
> threads joining the casting and tube (as I'll want to gum them up later
> with something a little less permanent).
>
> So of course, I'm looking for suggestions (preferably from people who
> have had to seal their tube back in place and can describe what did(n't)
> work for them). I have a hunch about something that *might* work, but
> I'll trust hard-earned experience over hunches any day..
>
> Thanks,
> Kris
>
> --
> Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 14:02:58 -0700
> From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
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>
> Kris, I used 5200 for the same job, 10 years ago. Still going strong.
> Probably be a nightmare to take out 20 years from now.... Oh well, that's
> what youth are for... Also, Dolce had original Whidby grey putty bedding
> compound around the stern tube bore. I cleaned that out extensively, and
> used solvents to degrease prior to reinstalling with 5200.
>
> Cautionary note, Be very careful to reinstall and align the stern tube and
> jack shaft as well as you can, so the engine- xmission is able to be
> aligned properly. Otherwise you risk ruining your transmission from to
> much side play induced by a misaligned stern tube.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn B
>
> Ex-dolce, 318
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 4, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So I'm in the midst of changing the cutlass bearing (as well as a bunch
>> of other things) while I've been off the boat for the winter (yes, I
>> know it's not winter anymore), and have come across a question:
>>
>> When I was unscrewing the casting that holds the cutlass bearing from
>> the stern tube, the stern tube came out of the hull, instead of
>> unscrewing from the casting. I've since gotten those 2 pieces apart with
>> a vise grip and pipe wrench, but am thinking ahead to when I'll have to
>> put it all back together.
>>
>> In particular, I'm thinking about how to fix the tube back in the hull
>> at the right depth, and I'm thinking of smearing it with 5200 before
>> jamming it in so that it stays put the next time the bearing needs to be
>> changed. Where I'm sensing some difficulty is getting the tube/hull
>> interface properly gooped up without having the goop also get into the
>> threads joining the casting and tube (as I'll want to gum them up later
>> with something a little less permanent).
>>
>> So of course, I'm looking for suggestions (preferably from people who
>> have had to seal their tube back in place and can describe what did(n't)
>> work for them). I have a hunch about something that *might* work, but
>> I'll trust hard-earned experience over hunches any day..
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kris
>>
>> --
>> Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
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> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 18:02:13 -0400
> From: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: "Glenn Brooks" <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>, "Alberg 30 Public List
> -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
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> Kris
>
> I have done this jobs several times. After removing the tube (which you've
> already done) as Glenn noted, clean up all of the old Whitby grey putty
> bedding compound. Screw the tube into the cutlass bearing housing and
> re-install the housing (with new cutlass bearing installed) in the boat.
> The
> housing will determine the proper alignment. Climb in over the engine and
> fill the void between the tube/hull completely with 5200. You may need to
> create a dam with duct tape to hold the 5200 in place. It's a wonderful
> way
> to become one with your boat! :)
>
>
>
>
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: Kris Coward ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
>
> Kris, I used 5200 for the same job, 10 years ago. Still going strong.
> Probably be a nightmare to take out 20 years from now.... Oh well, that's
> what youth are for... Also, Dolce had original Whidby grey putty bedding
> compound around the stern tube bore. I cleaned that out extensively, and
> used solvents to degrease prior to reinstalling with 5200.
>
> Cautionary note, Be very careful to reinstall and align the stern tube and
> jack shaft as well as you can, so the engine- xmission is able to be
> aligned
> properly. Otherwise you risk ruining your transmission from to much side
> play induced by a misaligned stern tube.
>
> Cheers
> Glenn B
>
> Ex-dolce, 318
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 4, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So I'm in the midst of changing the cutlass bearing (as well as a bunch
>> of other things) while I've been off the boat for the winter (yes, I
>> know it's not winter anymore), and have come across a question:
>>
>> When I was unscrewing the casting that holds the cutlass bearing from
>> the stern tube, the stern tube came out of the hull, instead of
>> unscrewing from the casting. I've since gotten those 2 pieces apart with
>> a vise grip and pipe wrench, but am thinking ahead to when I'll have to
>> put it all back together.
>>
>> In particular, I'm thinking about how to fix the tube back in the hull
>> at the right depth, and I'm thinking of smearing it with 5200 before
>> jamming it in so that it stays put the next time the bearing needs to be
>> changed. Where I'm sensing some difficulty is getting the tube/hull
>> interface properly gooped up without having the goop also get into the
>> threads joining the casting and tube (as I'll want to gum them up later
>> with something a little less permanent).
>>
>> So of course, I'm looking for suggestions (preferably from people who
>> have had to seal their tube back in place and can describe what did(n't)
>> work for them). I have a hunch about something that *might* work, but
>> I'll trust hard-earned experience over hunches any day..
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kris
>>
>> --
>> Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 18:44:49 -0400
> From: George Dinwiddie via Public-List
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Atomic Four Parts
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> Bill
>
> On 5/4/15 4:00 PM, Bill Newman via Public-List wrote:
>> Attention George Dinwiddie
>>
>> Geoge, I have been trying to buy some Atomic Four parts and happily
>> found your part's list on the internet. Thank you very much. Do you
>> happen to know any part numbers for a coil for the older style Atomic
>> Four with a Prestolite distributor?
>
> Sorry, but I don't. Do you have an external resistor?
>
> Check over at forum on the moyermarine.com site.
>
> I've found it's become very difficult to buy ignition parts without an
> automotive make and model. The parts places no longer go by part
> numbers. <sigh/>
>
> - George
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 18:56:51 -0400
> From: Kris Coward via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open
> to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
> Message-ID: <20150504225651.GF2322 at melon.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> For filling the void, I'm thinking instead of a dam to ask my gf to grab
> the housing/bearing/tube assembly, slowly turn it clockwise, and "slide
> it in and out until you see white goo", while I keep applying the 5200
> to the top of the tube from my perch atop the engine (where I'll be
> delicately perched on my belly). Any thoughts on filling the void this
> way?
>
> -Kris
>
> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 06:02:13PM -0400, Mike Lehman via Public-List
> wrote:
>> Kris
>>
>> I have done this jobs several times. After removing the tube (which
>> you've already done) as Glenn noted, clean up all of the old Whitby
>> grey putty bedding compound. Screw the tube into the cutlass bearing
>> housing and re-install the housing (with new cutlass bearing
>> installed) in the boat. The housing will determine the proper
>> alignment. Climb in over the engine and fill the void between the
>> tube/hull completely with 5200. You may need to create a dam with
>> duct tape to hold the 5200 in place. It's a wonderful way to become
>> one with your boat! :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List
>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:02 PM
>> To: Kris Coward ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
>>
>> Kris, I used 5200 for the same job, 10 years ago. Still going
>> strong. Probably be a nightmare to take out 20 years from now.... Oh
>> well, that's what youth are for... Also, Dolce had original Whidby
>> grey putty bedding compound around the stern tube bore. I cleaned
>> that out extensively, and used solvents to degrease prior to
>> reinstalling with 5200.
>>
>> Cautionary note, Be very careful to reinstall and align the stern
>> tube and jack shaft as well as you can, so the engine- xmission is
>> able to be aligned properly. Otherwise you risk ruining your
>> transmission from to much side play induced by a misaligned stern
>> tube.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Glenn B
>>
>> Ex-dolce, 318
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> >On May 4, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List
>> ><public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >So I'm in the midst of changing the cutlass bearing (as well as a bunch
>> >of other things) while I've been off the boat for the winter (yes, I
>> >know it's not winter anymore), and have come across a question:
>> >
>> >When I was unscrewing the casting that holds the cutlass bearing from
>> >the stern tube, the stern tube came out of the hull, instead of
>> >unscrewing from the casting. I've since gotten those 2 pieces apart with
>> >a vise grip and pipe wrench, but am thinking ahead to when I'll have to
>> >put it all back together.
>> >
>> >In particular, I'm thinking about how to fix the tube back in the hull
>> >at the right depth, and I'm thinking of smearing it with 5200 before
>> >jamming it in so that it stays put the next time the bearing needs to be
>> >changed. Where I'm sensing some difficulty is getting the tube/hull
>> >interface properly gooped up without having the goop also get into the
>> >threads joining the casting and tube (as I'll want to gum them up later
>> >with something a little less permanent).
>> >
>> >So of course, I'm looking for suggestions (preferably from people who
>> >have had to seal their tube back in place and can describe what did(n't)
>> >work for them). I have a hunch about something that *might* work, but
>> >I'll trust hard-earned experience over hunches any day..
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Kris
>> >
>> >--
>> >Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> >GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >These businesses support your Association:
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> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 00:28:55 +0000 (UTC)
> From: anthony pensiero via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
> all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
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>
> I just pulled my cutlass the other day and does anyone know the part
> number for the cutlass ?which company nThanks Tony
>
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2015 6:56 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> For filling the void, I'm thinking instead of a dam to ask my gf to grab
> the housing/bearing/tube assembly, slowly turn it clockwise, and "slide
> it in and out until you see white goo", while I keep applying the 5200
> to the top of the tube from my perch atop the engine (where I'll be
> delicately perched on my belly). Any thoughts on filling the void this
> way?
>
> -Kris
>
> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 06:02:13PM -0400, Mike Lehman via Public-List
> wrote:
>> Kris
>>
>> I have done this jobs several times. After removing the tube (which
>> you've already done) as Glenn noted, clean up all of the old Whitby
>> grey putty bedding compound. Screw the tube into the cutlass bearing
>> housing? and re-install the housing (with new cutlass bearing
>> installed) in the boat. The housing will determine the proper
>> alignment. Climb in over the engine and fill the void between the
>> tube/hull completely with 5200. You may need to create a dam with
>> duct tape to hold the 5200 in place. It's a wonderful way to become
>> one with your boat! :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List
>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:02 PM
>> To: Kris Coward ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Gooping up the stern tube
>>
>> Kris,? I used 5200 for the same job, 10 years ago.? Still going
>> strong. Probably be a nightmare to take out 20 years from now.... Oh
>> well, that's what youth are for... Also, Dolce had original Whidby
>> grey putty bedding compound around? the stern tube bore.? I cleaned
>> that out extensively, and used solvents to degrease prior to
>> reinstalling with 5200.
>>
>> Cautionary note, Be very careful to reinstall and align the stern
>> tube and jack shaft as well as you can, so the engine- xmission is
>> able to be aligned properly. Otherwise you risk ruining your
>> transmission from to much side play induced by a misaligned stern
>> tube.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Glenn B
>>
>> Ex-dolce, 318
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> >On May 4, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List
>> ><public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >So I'm in the midst of changing the cutlass bearing (as well as a bunch
>> >of other things) while I've been off the boat for the winter (yes, I
>> >know it's not winter anymore), and have come across a question:
>> >
>> >When I was unscrewing the casting that holds the cutlass bearing from
>> >the stern tube, the stern tube came out of the hull, instead of
>> >unscrewing from the casting. I've since gotten those 2 pieces apart with
>> >a vise grip and pipe wrench, but am thinking ahead to when I'll have to
>> >put it all back together.
>> >
>> >In particular, I'm thinking about how to fix the tube back in the hull
>> >at the right depth, and I'm thinking of smearing it with 5200 before
>> >jamming it in so that it stays put the next time the bearing needs to be
>> >changed. Where I'm sensing some difficulty is getting the tube/hull
>> >interface properly gooped up without having the goop also get into the
>> >threads joining the casting and tube (as I'll want to gum them up later
>> >with something a little less permanent).
>> >
>> >So of course, I'm looking for suggestions (preferably from people who
>> >have had to seal their tube back in place and can describe what did(n't)
>> >work for them). I have a hunch about something that *might* work, but
>> >I'll trust hard-earned experience over hunches any day..
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Kris
>> >
>> >--
>> >Kris Coward? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://unripe.melon.org/
>> >GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733? 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >These businesses support your Association:
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