[Public-List] Alberg 30 forum

Wed Oct 14 06:30:11 PDT 2015

Hi All,

A quick question, can the list support links to Dropbox?

Wes

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> For my part, I have to say I'm unmoved by pursuit of increased efficiency.
> I like our list as the rambling conversation it is.
>
> If we all lived closer together, I imagine we'd talk about what we do over
> beers in the local pub or at a sailing club... But we don't, so we chat
> this
> way.
>
> I like it.  And I have to say that the load George carries making it all
> happen for us has been largely invisible to me - so George, thank you very
> much.
>
> Gord #426 Surprise
>
>
> On 2015-10-13, 11:11 PM, "Jay Davenport via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > George,
> Most Alberg 30 owners have had the benefit of your list and website
> > for many years. It has also been recognized by the general sailing
> community
> > as one of the best One-Design sites available.
> The Alberg 30 community, and
> > our boats, are unique in many ways, and do not have to follow the
> vagaries of
> > a constantly changing world. The relationships in our family, some of
> which
> > are decades old, and our boats, are a constant which we all can rely on.
> The
> > A30 website is part of that dynamic.
> None of this means that there can't be
> > improvement in how things are done, but it does mean that it would be
> > ill-advised to jettison a long-term successful website format for a new,
> > untested (and perhaps unwanted) replacement. Although some of those who
> > support this change may be willing to commit to operating it for the
> next two
> > decades, I, for one, would prefer to see the existing website (which is
> first
> > rate) and the existing Administrator (who is first rate) continue to
> provide
> > this sailor with the advantages for which the site is so well known.
> I know
> > that you will keep an open mind about improvements, but web safety and
> privacy
> > issues should always be in the forefront.
> "If it ain't broke, don't fix
> > it." Jay Davenport
>
>
>       From: George Dinwiddie via Public-List
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>  To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>  Sent:
> > Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Public-List] Alberg 30 forum
>
> >
> Michael, et al,
>
> On 10/13/15 5:03 AM, Michael via Public-List wrote:
> > They
> > come and they go. The Alberg 30 list endures. Thanks George.
>
> You're welcome.
> > And thank you for lifting my spirits.
>
> > Knowing at least one thing I am
> > subscribed to can't install binary
> > malware means a lot to me.
> > Keep the
> > subject line relevant to the discussion at hand and i don't see
> > the problem
> > with confusion (in searches or otherwise).
> >
> > MichaelGrosh
> > #220
> > I would
> > like to see the collaborate/wiki doohickey pages used more.
> > that's a tough
> > nut to crack. lots of potential there.
>
> You were, I think, the only one other
> > than me to create pages in the
> "collaborate" section. Unfortunately, it's
> > down for the count at the
> moment. A combination of years-long persistent
> > onslaught of vandals, and
> an upgrade by my hosting provider that left me
> > without a simple
> migration path. Until I figure out a way forward, it's
> > defunct. Leaving
> it up was jeopardizing the rest of the website.
>
> As of this
> > morning, 376340 different IP addresses have tried to create
> logins for it, I
> > presume these are mostly automated bots. I gave up many
> months ago blocking
> > IP addresses after blocking over 100000 of them. The
> CPU usage just to refuse
> > their connection was overwhelming when there
> were several per second. When I
> > was actively fighting this problem, I
> was spending a dozen or so hours a week
> > on it, for months. I had to
> throw in the towel. The spammers are quite
> > persistent. Even though it
> hasn't worked for about a year, there were 883
> > attempts to create an
> account in 24 hours yesterday. At least it's slowed
> > down a bit.
>
> People complain about not being able to send photos on the
> > mailing list,
> and suggest a web-based solution to that problem. They ignore
> > the fact
> that the alberg30.org website already has the ability to post
> > photos.
> I've mentioned this numerous times on the list. It does require a
> > login,
> which I will gladly create, but that keeps out the spam bots that have
> >
> infested the wiki. Very few people have contributed. You can visit
> >
> http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/ to see what's there.
>
> Yes, I know there are
> > newer things than email lists. Web forums are so
> terribly new, however. Some
> > of us remember Compuserve forums, and find
> web forums to be a pale reflection
> > of them. When I was an assistant
> sysop on Compuserves sailing forum (a.k.a.
> > the Online Yacht Club), it
> was considered poor taste to troll another forum
> > to entice members to
> leave it for some other forum. There are things newer
> > than online
> etiquette, too.
>
> I'm not terribly interested in what's new and
> > what's obsolete. I note
> that sailboats have been an obsolete form of
> > transportation for a very
> long time. Yet they provide me with a certain
> > amount of pleasure, and,
> with care, safety. Pleasure and safety are my goals
> > with the website and
> mailing list.
>
> I've been running the mailing list for
> > over 17 years, now, and the
> website for 20. I've been especially careful
> > about security. I started
> this list on one-list, which was bought by egroups,
> > which was bought by
> yahoo. Yahoo started adding webbugs to the emails so they
> > could track
> who opened emails when. I didn't like that, so I left the free
> > email
> services and ran my own list. This seems so quaint today when large
> >
> corporations lose millions of credit cards at a time, but I still care
> about
> > providing a safe environment for people who want to focus on
> sailing rather
> > than web security. As a sailor, I've seen how a little
> inattention can
> > suddenly become life-threatening.
>
> I'm comfortable with the choices I've made.
> > If others want to make other
> choices, that's up to them. I really do
> > appreciate the kind words of
> support. There have been many days when I've
> > wondered why I'm still
> doing this, and those words remind me of the
> > answer.
>
>   Fair winds,
>     George
>
> --
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   When
> > I remember bygone days                        George Dinwiddie
>   I think how
> > evening follows morn;            gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
>   So many I loved
> > were not yet dead,          http://www.Alberg30.org
>   So many I love were not
> > yet born.                          also see:
>                 'The Middle' by
> > Ogden Nash    http://idiacomputing.com
>
>
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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