[Public-List] Cockpit Coaming

Thu Oct 22 13:35:29 PDT 2015

Mike,

The winch base failed where? At the interface where the winch is attached
(the top of the base itself)?

-Jeff

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> AND the starboard winch (self tailer) on 272 pulled out in the Rankin race
> this year!
> The winch base failed - fortunately the self-tailer held the winch and the
> base so they did not go to the bottom of the Magothy.
> After looking at the winch base, I think the material was laid too thin in
> way of the holes. I don't think the self-tailer adds to the loading, since
> when racing you can have large tailing forces from almost any direction.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
> Michael J. Meinhold 301 852 0619 meinhold272 at gmail.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > While at the dock before Sunday's races during the Rankin regatta this
> > year, heard that the Albergs where not designed with self-tailing winches
> > in mind.  The stresses on the winch can be too much.  The starboard winch
> > ripped out of #262 some years ago while being raced on the Magothy.  The
> > starboard winch on #244 ripped out this year...perhaps on Saturday during
> > the Rankin regatta.  John Maliszewski would have information about #262.
> > Tim Williams would have information about #244.
> >
> > On #262, the jib cleats are on the coaming, so a different placement will
> > need to be found, unless self-tailers are used.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Please excuse the general mess in the pic, I had just gotten done with
> > > removing the coamings, the winch is just sitting there on deck with the
> > > sheet wrapped around it as a "model" to see if the lead will still be
> > > correct if I choose to go "commando"...looks like I need to bleach out
> > the
> > > lifeline cover too :-)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Wes Gardner <
> wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, the coaming is a separate piece and yes, it is completely
> closed.
> > > > Here's a pic of what my boat looks like #196 (old non-liner boat) but
> > > yours
> > > > will be similar.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/igbrzi0pfakchc7/Cockpit.jpg?dl=0
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Bill Wallace <
> wayfarer3134 at yahoo.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Do I understand correctly that the cockpit coaming is only a cover
> > over
> > > >> fibreglass, and that the fibreglass actually meets/is closed behind
> > the
> > > >> coamings?  I had always assumed there was actually a gap and that
> any
> > > water
> > > >> that flowed in behind the comings ended up in the bilge?  I have a
> > newer
> > > >> boat, so I hope the answer is the same.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill.
> > > >> Chewan, Alberg 30 # 626
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:00 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List
> <
> > > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey All,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks to everyone for the responses...I can tell that when you
> > combine
> > > >> the
> > > >> words "exotic" and "boat" in the same sentence, that I'm in for a
> real
> > > >> treat :-)  I assume I'm looking at about 500 - 600 for teak...I
> might
> > > >> start
> > > >> looking at alternative species....
> > > >>
> > > >> I was also drooling over some self-tailers last night...but with the
> > > >> engine
> > > >> repair bill coming, those will have to wait.
> > > >>
> > > >> Wes
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Brooke Harwood via Public-List <
> > > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Warren's does have a great teak choice & a better price last time
> I
> > > >> > checked.
> > > >> > On Oct 22, 2015 10:51 AM, "Michael Grosh via Public-List" <
> > > >> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > If Exotic Lumber doesn't work for you, try Warren's Woodworks
> off
> > > >> Glebe
> > > >> > > Road Easton. They are right next to the Hinkley repair
> facility, I
> > > am
> > > >> > sure
> > > >> > > they have teak in all dimensions.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > MichaelGrosh
> > > >> > > #220
> > > >> > > On Oct 22, 2015 9:16 AM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
> > > >> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hi All,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This has probably been discussed before...I removed my
> coamings
> > > (and
> > > >> > > winch
> > > >> > > > pedestals) yesterday and am considered sailing next year
> > "commando
> > > >> > style"
> > > >> > > > without them.  I'll see what my wife thinks. We sail mainly in
> > > >> "daysail
> > > >> > > > mode" so there's no chance of green water rolling into the
> > > >> cockpit.  I
> > > >> > am
> > > >> > > > of the "lean against the lifelines" school of steering to
> > leeward.
> > > >> The
> > > >> > > > boat DOES feel quite different without them.  Feels kinda
> nice,
> > > >> > actually.
> > > >> > > > That's another discussion....
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > What I DID find is that mine were installed completely "dry"
> > > meaning
> > > >> > > there
> > > >> > > > was no bedding of anything anywhere.  Maybe this was
> intentional
> > > as
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > space between the wood and the glass is a great place for
> > trapping
> > > >> > crud.
> > > >> > > > What have others done in this area?  I thought about
> > intentionally
> > > >> > > spacing
> > > >> > > > the wood away with a flat washer and cutting some weeps in
> along
> > > the
> > > >> > > > bottom?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Anyone know of a good source for teak?  I have a bandsaw,
> sabre
> > > saw
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > > router so I can shape and machine, I'll need to get the pieces
> > > >> joined
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > > I
> > > >> > > > don't have access to a jointer.  (I truly miss the one in the
> > > >> boatyard
> > > >> > > that
> > > >> > > > had like an eight foot bed, but those days are gone...)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Wes
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