[Public-List] Self Tailers

[Michael Nikolich via Public-List]

To clarify, I believe some of the "misadventures" with self-tailers are not just from the winches.  I think the problem is that the self-tailers are installed on additional pedestals to set the boat up with primary and secondary winches (usually for racing).  The bottom of one pedestal design commonly used has openings to let water run through.  Over time and/or under high loads, the pedestal feet and hardware used to mount the pedestal to the deck and coaming has proven insufficient and the pedestal would tear away. If you plan to just have one set of winches on the original pedestals, then depending on how substantial your pedestals and hardware on you may be fine.

Mike





Mike Nikolich
s/v SKYBIRD
Alberg 30 #550
mike.nikolich550 at gmail.com



On Oct 24, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

Hi Gord,

Thanks for the lesson in being the "head man." So the 40s are fine? I'm a little locked in as far as fore and aft positioning as I have a lifeline stanchion that will not allow me to move the winches forward. I'm also not intending to set this boat up for a spinnaker so I'm just going back with what was there. Although beefed up in lieu of others' misadventures with winch installations.

Wes

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> On Oct 24, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
> 
> We put 40ST's on SURPRISE for primaries, and moved the old Barient non-self
> tailing winches aft onto the spinnaker winch pads.
> 
> I don't doubt that adding self tailing winches to the boat was the single
> most dramatic improvement she's received while we've owned her.  I know ST's
> are not inexpensive, but I'd say they're worth every penny.
> 
> So what was the second most dramatic improvement?  The head.  When we got
> SURPRISE she had a port-a-potty thing that was both awkward to sit on and
> unpleasant to live with.  Under the lid was illustrated instructions on how
> to make a 'sled' of folded toilet paper by which to aid the passage of solid
> waste contributions...
> 
> A number of years ago we put a real toilet-style head into her.  Oh what an
> improvement.  One can now sit in comfort and read a magazine like a
> gentleman when doing one's duty.  I think the day I began toning down my
> complaining that I missed the wooden boat, SURPRISE's predecessor, was the
> first day I used the new head.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> PS - the wooden boat had a bucket.  Actually she carried two, a blue one and
> a red one.  One was the head, the other for galley wash ups.  Visitors would
> commonly forget which was which... And at this moment, I can't remember
> myself.  
> 
> 
> On 2015-10-23, 8:37 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hey All,
>> 
>> So maybe, just maybe I can eek a couple of self tailers into next spring's
>> budget (maybe she won't notice :-) What size for primaries? I don't have a
>> chute and won't be setting this boat up for one...
>> 
>> Wes
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