[Public-List] Cockpit drains

[Michael Connolly via Public-List]

Why not? I think they would be fine. 
Michael 

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From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
To: "Randy Katz" <randy.katz50 at gmail.com>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:46:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Cockpit drains 

Hello friends, 

I've been following the discussion with great interest, and have noted that 
nobody reacted to my description of my neighbor's use of industrial drain 
fittings as cockpit drains.  I reckon the idea is not looked upon by you 
folks as a good one? 

They seemed quite solidly made to me - what do you folks think about them? 

Gord 
#426 Surprise 


On 2015-09-13, 11:07 PM, "Randy Katz via Public-List" 
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 

> Greetings, Glenn, and thanks for your response to this bit of discussion. 
> 
> You've investigated the drains question more thoroughly than I, that's for 
> sure. Good to know what you've figured and have learned from the surveyors. 
> 
> The comment about the drains going to a wye was from someone else. I don't 
> know about that. 
> 
> Another separate aspect relating to water in the cockpit that I figured 
> would be problematic with my current set up has to do with the exposed 
> engine instrument panel. It's behind plastic about 10" above the sole, but 
> is obviously not waterproof. The thought of seawater getting in there is 
> not pleasant, but I know that in my case such an event is extremely 
> unlikely. And deluges of rain haven't been a problem in the last 12 years, 
> so.... 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Randy 
> Simple Gifts #249 
> Bellingham/Seattle 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:07:31 -0700 
> From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Cockpit drain fittings--bigger could be 
>         better 
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> Randy, first, there is very little chance you are going to get pooped. 
>  the design has proven itself to be much more than an inland waters 
> racer/weekender. True, one could rebuild the deck and eliminate the cockpit 
> etc. however, the four Alberg  singlehanders who have circumnavigated 
> haven't reported any difficulty clearing water from the cockpit, including 
> two boats that were rolled- with the existing 1" drains.  If you look at 
> other ocean voyaging boats of this class,  the usual drain fittings are 
> only either 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" inches. So you would only gain max 30% more 
> flow rate if you replaced the existing drains. Above that you would have to 
> go to 2" drains- which is what my 63' ketch had. 
> 
> I didn't follow your initial post very clearly, but seem to remember 
> something about  deck drains feeding down to a Wye?  Dolce only had this 
> arrangement only for the cockpit lid drains - which I ripped out and 
> glassed closed when the rubber tubing eventually rotted away.  The actual 
> floor drains lead separately to individual thru hulls - one port, one 
> starboard of the engine. 
> 
> As a side note, I've had thee very experienced, senior, marine surveyors 
> here in the PNW look specifically at the drains and cockpit/lazarettes over 
> the years, and all three have said the existing drains are adequate for 
> offshore work.  What people don't realize is that if you get pooped,  the 
> water gets sloshed out over the sides on the next wave, not drained out the 
> bottom.  The only comment two of the surveyors made was that the cockpit 
> lids were inadequate. Skinny little sheet of plywood covered with teak 
> strips is marginal.  I eventually replaced the lids with solid teak hatchs, 
> reinforced with cross bars of teak on the bottom, and secured with two 
> latches each hatch. The third, most recent surveyor thought that was 
> overkill, but liked the setup. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Glenn 
> 
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