[Public-List] Cockpit drains

[Gordon Laco via Public-List]

Hello friends,

I've been following the discussion with great interest, and have noted that
nobody reacted to my description of my neighbor's use of industrial drain
fittings as cockpit drains.  I reckon the idea is not looked upon by you
folks as a good one?

They seemed quite solidly made to me - what do you folks think about them?

Gord
#426 Surprise


On 2015-09-13, 11:07 PM, "Randy Katz via Public-List"
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Greetings, Glenn, and thanks for your response to this bit of discussion.
> 
> You've investigated the drains question more thoroughly than I, that's for
> sure. Good to know what you've figured and have learned from the surveyors.
> 
> The comment about the drains going to a wye was from someone else. I don't
> know about that.
> 
> Another separate aspect relating to water in the cockpit that I figured
> would be problematic with my current set up has to do with the exposed
> engine instrument panel. It's behind plastic about 10" above the sole, but
> is obviously not waterproof. The thought of seawater getting in there is
> not pleasant, but I know that in my case such an event is extremely
> unlikely. And deluges of rain haven't been a problem in the last 12 years,
> so....
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Randy
> Simple Gifts #249
> Bellingham/Seattle
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:07:31 -0700
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> Randy, first, there is very little chance you are going to get pooped.
>  the design has proven itself to be much more than an inland waters
> racer/weekender. True, one could rebuild the deck and eliminate the cockpit
> etc. however, the four Alberg  singlehanders who have circumnavigated
> haven't reported any difficulty clearing water from the cockpit, including
> two boats that were rolled- with the existing 1" drains.  If you look at
> other ocean voyaging boats of this class,  the usual drain fittings are
> only either 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" inches. So you would only gain max 30% more
> flow rate if you replaced the existing drains. Above that you would have to
> go to 2" drains- which is what my 63' ketch had.
> 
> I didn't follow your initial post very clearly, but seem to remember
> something about  deck drains feeding down to a Wye?  Dolce only had this
> arrangement only for the cockpit lid drains - which I ripped out and
> glassed closed when the rubber tubing eventually rotted away.  The actual
> floor drains lead separately to individual thru hulls - one port, one
> starboard of the engine.
> 
> As a side note, I've had thee very experienced, senior, marine surveyors
> here in the PNW look specifically at the drains and cockpit/lazarettes over
> the years, and all three have said the existing drains are adequate for
> offshore work.  What people don't realize is that if you get pooped,  the
> water gets sloshed out over the sides on the next wave, not drained out the
> bottom.  The only comment two of the surveyors made was that the cockpit
> lids were inadequate. Skinny little sheet of plywood covered with teak
> strips is marginal.  I eventually replaced the lids with solid teak hatchs,
> reinforced with cross bars of teak on the bottom, and secured with two
> latches each hatch. The third, most recent surveyor thought that was
> overkill, but liked the setup.
> 
> Cheers,
> Glenn
> 
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