[Public-List] Cockpit drains

[Lawrence Morris via Public-List]

Good,

Cockpit drains!  Great interest? 

You need to get out more.... 😀



Larry 

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> On Sep 14, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> 
> I've been following the discussion with great interest, and have noted that
> nobody reacted to my description of my neighbor's use of industrial drain
> fittings as cockpit drains.  I reckon the idea is not looked upon by you
> folks as a good one?
> 
> They seemed quite solidly made to me - what do you folks think about them?
> 
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> On 2015-09-13, 11:07 PM, "Randy Katz via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings, Glenn, and thanks for your response to this bit of discussion.
>> 
>> You've investigated the drains question more thoroughly than I, that's for
>> sure. Good to know what you've figured and have learned from the surveyors.
>> 
>> The comment about the drains going to a wye was from someone else. I don't
>> know about that.
>> 
>> Another separate aspect relating to water in the cockpit that I figured
>> would be problematic with my current set up has to do with the exposed
>> engine instrument panel. It's behind plastic about 10" above the sole, but
>> is obviously not waterproof. The thought of seawater getting in there is
>> not pleasant, but I know that in my case such an event is extremely
>> unlikely. And deluges of rain haven't been a problem in the last 12 years,
>> so....
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Randy
>> Simple Gifts #249
>> Bellingham/Seattle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:07:31 -0700
>> From: Glenn Brooks via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> To: Randy Katz <randy.katz50 at gmail.com>,        Alberg 30 Public List --
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Cockpit drain fittings--bigger could be
>>        better
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>> 
>> Randy, first, there is very little chance you are going to get pooped.
>> the design has proven itself to be much more than an inland waters
>> racer/weekender. True, one could rebuild the deck and eliminate the cockpit
>> etc. however, the four Alberg  singlehanders who have circumnavigated
>> haven't reported any difficulty clearing water from the cockpit, including
>> two boats that were rolled- with the existing 1" drains.  If you look at
>> other ocean voyaging boats of this class,  the usual drain fittings are
>> only either 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" inches. So you would only gain max 30% more
>> flow rate if you replaced the existing drains. Above that you would have to
>> go to 2" drains- which is what my 63' ketch had.
>> 
>> I didn't follow your initial post very clearly, but seem to remember
>> something about  deck drains feeding down to a Wye?  Dolce only had this
>> arrangement only for the cockpit lid drains - which I ripped out and
>> glassed closed when the rubber tubing eventually rotted away.  The actual
>> floor drains lead separately to individual thru hulls - one port, one
>> starboard of the engine.
>> 
>> As a side note, I've had thee very experienced, senior, marine surveyors
>> here in the PNW look specifically at the drains and cockpit/lazarettes over
>> the years, and all three have said the existing drains are adequate for
>> offshore work.  What people don't realize is that if you get pooped,  the
>> water gets sloshed out over the sides on the next wave, not drained out the
>> bottom.  The only comment two of the surveyors made was that the cockpit
>> lids were inadequate. Skinny little sheet of plywood covered with teak
>> strips is marginal.  I eventually replaced the lids with solid teak hatchs,
>> reinforced with cross bars of teak on the bottom, and secured with two
>> latches each hatch. The third, most recent surveyor thought that was
>> overkill, but liked the setup.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Glenn
>> 
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