[Public-List] V-Berth Shelving

[Wes Gardner via Public-List]

Pictures are always good...

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Greg Hounsell <greg.hounsell at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hmm very confusing as that is exactly what mine looks like on hull 592 and
> the lovely white pegboard below. ... but I have a liner hull..
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Wes Gardner via Public-List
> Date:04-21-2016 11:21 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Jason S , Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] V-Berth Shelving
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's my knee/shelf/hull...all glassed together, hull #196
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv4nta94lhl3se3/Knee.jpg?dl=0
>
> Wes
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > No dimples on my liner boat. But I do know what you speak of. Hull 449
> also
> > a liner boat had them.
> > My hull 457 did not have the dimples and the shelves were at best tacked
> > into place.
> >
> > Either way when I put refit v berth they will definitely become a
> > supporting structure as they will be properly glassed and fitted together
> >
> > Jason
> > #457
> > On Apr 21, 2016 8:57 AM, "via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The shelves in the forward cabin are most definitely secondary
> structural
> > > supports. If you sight down the outside of a liner boat and pay
> > particular
> > > attention to the cove stripe in the area of the foward knees, you will
> > see
> > > a prominent dimple in the hull at that spot. That is because the
> shelves
> > > were not glassed, to the hull like they were in the pre-liner boats.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Lehman
> > >
> > > ~~/)~/)~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM -0700, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think just by nature of there being a liner that no, the furniture
> like
> > > shelves, will not be structural. I'm not familiar at all with the liner
> > > boats but the non-liner boats tie everything (knees/shelf/hull)
> together
> > > with glass tape.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Stephen gwyn via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not convinced the shelves are structural, at least on a liner
> > > > boat. Or at least on my boat (#495). There's a single bit of
> > > > glass tape. The wood is attached to the tape with pop rivets.
> > > > Maybe there was a bond between the glass and the wood
> > > > at one point, but 40 years of wet/dry expansion/contraction
> > > > cycling have killed it. Polyester to wood is only temporary.
> > > >
> > > > The forward lower knees are not integrated with the shelves,
> > > > again not on my boat at least.
> > > >
> > > > There is a longitudinal stiffener in the liner. It's the triangular
> > > > shelf thing which forms the edge of the under-berth compartment
> > > > of the V-berth, the support for the shelves in the cupboards,
> > > > the bottom of the compartment behind the seats in the main
> > > > cabin, and the not-very-useful shelf in the cockpit lockers.
> > > >
> > > > SG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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