[Public-List] Spinnaker rigging, pole down haul

[Gordon Laco via Public-List]

Surprise's pole down haul is 2:1 and cleats to a clam cleat on the mast.  I don't run lines back to the cockpit so as to keep weight forward when sail handling of the chute is going on.  

Rain bound at Bayfield Inlet..  Not so bad.  Sipping coffee, reading, nice. 

Gord #426 Surprise.  

On 2016-08-16, at 12:08 PM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> On mine and others I have seen, I cleat a block with a pigtail to the bow cleat, and the foreguy runs aft to a jam cleat starboard side of deckhouse aft
> 
> Mike
> 
> Michael J. Meinhold 
> meinhold272 at gmail.com / 301 852 0619
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Hernán Scarnichia via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Backfin,
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> I will try with a downhaul to the base of the mast as soon as I put a bail
>> there to atach it.
>> It may be easier for me to set up as a foreguy to the bow cleats or toerail
>> (aluminum slotted)
>> How is the foreguy routed to the cockpit and where do you cleat it off?
>> 
>> Hernan
>> #414
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016 4:43 AM, "Backfin via Public-List" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a foredeck guy on other boats... I'll jump in.
>>> 
>>> The advantage of having the foreguy (downhaul) rigged from the pole to the
>>> mast base is that it doesn't need to be adjusted as the pole swings fore
>>> and aft. So it doesn't necessarily need to be double ended (for control
>>> aft) for anything other than gybes (and the foredeck guy can do that if
>>> needed too since I'm often told how little I do). If thats the case, in
>>> theory it could be cleated at the mast. All depends on how many crew
>>> consistently shows up and how many strings you want each one to pull for
>>> each maneuver.
>>> 
>>> The disadvantage is that the downhauling purchase is reduced since there
>>> is a sharp angle from the pole to the mast base. An arrangement that pulls
>>> square to the pole has more oomph to control the pole, but then must be
>>> adjusted each time the pole swings.  The A30 pole is still small enough
>>> that the mast mounted foreguy works fine and can make life up there a bit
>>> simpler. A final disadvantage is that the footwork for a foredeck guy is
>>> limited when there is a line running from mid pole to the mast base...
>>> there's already enough stuff to trip over up there.
>>> 
>>> Also, I noticed the tweakers you are referring to... Not sure if its the
>>> same as what I've used on J/boats, but a twing is a block that lowers the
>>> active spinsheet down to control the leach, not the guy as you mentioned
>>> (it goes slack on the guy side or we usually use a snatch block and take it
>>> off entirely). I