[Public-List] Bulkheads

Fri Feb 5 07:22:07 PST 2016

Hi All,

Anyone tried this stuff for clean-up?  I've got some old SillyCone that a
PO goobered around on deck - I'm going to order and try - the info says it
also breaks the bond of 5200...hmmmm

http://www.debondcorporation.com/

Wes #196 Griffin's Faith

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Thanks to  you too Wes...  I was unsure which of the plates to order...
>
> Gord #426 Surprise
>
>
> On 2016-02-05, 9:33 AM, "Jonathan Bresler" <262alberg30 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Gordon,
> >
> > Thank you, but credit should go to Wes Gardner.  Wes has mentioned
> > the Schaefer chainplate covers and in doing so seems to have convinced
> > me to add them.   Noodling the idea that 7 pieces of G-10 3" by 2"
> > (covers are 2-1/2" x 1-9/32" per Schaefer webpage  ) expoxied to the
> deck,
> > rounded corners, filleted G-10 deck joint, with Schaefers on screwed
> down
> > on top might be just the thing that the well-dressed Alberg 30 will be
> > wearing
> > this season.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
> >> Thank you for that recommendation Jonathan,  I'm going to fit them to my
> >> plates this spring.
> >>
> >> Gord #426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2016-02-05, 9:23 AM, "Jonathan Bresler via Public-List"
> >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> > Thinking about chainplate covers.
> >>> > Schaefer covers have been mentioned a few times in the thread.
> >>> > Schaefer appears to have covers for 1-1/4"x1/8" chainplates
> (84-88/84-78)
> >>> > and covers for 1-1/2"x1/4" chainplates (84-90/84-80) as well as
> smaller
> >>> and
> >>> > larger
> >>> > chainplates.  Our chainplates are 1-1/4"x3/16", if I measured and
> noted
> >>> the
> >>> > sizes correctly.
> >>> >
> >>> > Guessing that folks are using the  covers for 1-1/2"x1/4" chainplates
> >>> > (84-90/84-80) ?
> >>> >
> >>> > Jonathan
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Jonathan Bresler <
> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>>> >> Backing up a moment, Don mentioned:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> "The backstay chainplate offers a different problem. There is a
> moment
> of
> >>>> >> force there because of the design. The top bolt is aft of all the
> the
> >>>> >> others because *the chainplate is angled aft at the top*. Thus if
> the
> >>>> top
> >>>> >> bolt fails from a bad knee, then the leverage is increased on the
> lower
> >>>> >> bolts and shear is more likely. As the chainplate revolves around
> the
> >>>> >> bottom bolt as the others shear, and it holds because there is no
> longer
> a
> >>>> >> moment to shear it, once straight with the stay, there is a major
> >>>> overload
> >>>> >> in a straight pull to cause the shear then, and there is no deck
> that
> >>>> can
> >>>> >> hold that so the backstay flies free."
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Needless to say, this scared the "stuffing" out of me particularly
> as it
> >>>> >> does not match what I remember seeing in #262.....hurriedly went
> to the
> >>>> >> boat last night to check.   To my relief, the backstay chainplate
> is
> >>>> >> installed through the deck and bolted to the knee at an angle in
> line
> >>>> with
> >>>> >> the backstay.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Did Whitby change the installation of the backstay chainplate at
> some
> >>>> >> point ?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Jonathan
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> P.S.  backstay chainplate is 1-1/4" x 3/16" x 6" (below deck) with
> 5/16"
> >>>> >> bolts, 1/2" pin in the chainplate and 1/4" 1x19 stainless steel
> wire
> >>>> >> backstay.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
> >>>> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> I also have had good luck with 3M4000 series UV..Very good seal
> and no
> >>>>> >>> cracking or seperation from chainplates or deck areas after 2
> seasons.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Jason
> >>>>> >>> #457
> >>>>> >>> www.svsalacia.blogspot.com <http://www.svsalacia.blogspot.com>
> >>>>> >>> On Feb 5, 2016 8:05 AM, "via Public-List"
> >>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> For caulking chainplates I have tried numerous products over
> the 38
> >>>>> >>> years
> >>>>>> >>>> we have owned the boat...my current favorite is 3M4000 UV.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Mike Lehman
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> ~~/)~/)~~
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM -0800, "Stephen Gwyn via
> Public-List"
> <
> >>>>>> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> So what are people's favourite sealant? I've been using
> >>>>>> >>>> BoatLife polysulfide sealant. Polyurethane  (3M5200 and
> Sikaflex)
> >>>>>> >>>> is too permanent. Silicone is permanent enough and once you
> >>>>>> >>>> use it, nothing will stick to where it has been.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> I was reading a british sailing, which recommended a butyl
> sealant
> >>>>>> >>>> which stayed sticky indefinitely, meaning that when the seal
> flexed
> >>>>>> >>>> and split, it would just seal itself again.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> SG
> >>>>>> >>>>
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> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Jonathan M Bresler
> >>>> >> Alberg 30 #262
> >>>> >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >>>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>
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