[Public-List] mast support in liner boats

Sat Feb 13 17:45:15 PST 2016

Gord and John
I will look into eliminating the rake. That is easy to do and I like
the thinking that supports this move. i certainly do not want to
continuing doing things that may have caused the problem in the first
place.
David 432

	-----------------------------------------From: "Gordon Laco via
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To: "John Birch", "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
Cc: 
Sent: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:08:10 -0500
Subject: Re: [Public-List] mast support in liner boats

 We trim our mast about vertical in order to help keep the weather
helm at
 the right weight...

 Gord #426 Surprise

 On 2016-02-13, 12:27 PM, "John Birch via Public-List"
  wrote:

 > I remember our A-30 had this problem (KC-544) until we started
tuning our rig
 > like the Chesapeake racers. Mast vertical, no rake, or virtually no
rake. That
 > took the loading off the deck at the back of the mast foot, which
is not
 > supported particularly well by the Aluminium deck beam, putting
most of the
 > downward force under the front of the mast step directly over the
deck beam.
 > 
 > Problem solved. Our decks were dry with no delam. It was a simple
compression
 > issue on the back of the step.
 > 
 > Hope that is a help.
 > 
 > Cheers from Western Lake Ontario, y'all
 > 
 > JB
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Jason S via Public-List" 
 > To: "Ryan Martin via Public-List" ; "David
 > Terrell" 
 > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 8:46 AM
 > Subject: Re: [Public-List] mast support in liner boats
 > 
 > 
 >> David,
 >> 
 >> It is alot of information to explain but I have started the repair
in my
 >> boat #457. I too have the compression aft of step which I believe
is a
 >> combination of mast step not being centered on the beam and water
 >> intrusion.
 >> 
 >> On my blog I have been documenting the repair process, I have lots
of
 >> photos and video
 >> 
 >> www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
 >> 
 >> I have also make a few poor quality video documenting the
destruction
 >> process on YouTube
 >> 
 >> Channel on youtube is : Cruiser2B
 >> 
 >> Jason
 >> #457
 >> Www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
 >> On Feb 12, 2016 10:32 PM, "via Public-List" 
 >> wrote:
 >> 
 >>> First, I will admit that I have not reviewed the discussion about
mast
 >>> supports as I thought this was a problem for older boats as I
have a
 >>> liner boat. i will be reviewing this discussion tomorrow morning.
 >>> so here is my first question. How is the mast supported in liner
 >>> boats. My boat is 432?
 >>> A little info may help. (1) I have seen the repair of the mast
step
 >>> done on 499. I sure there is water intrusion under the mast step.
(2)
 >>> On my boat there are about five bolts that run through the "beam"
that
 >>> runs across the v berth bulk head. The heads of the bolt are on
the
 >>> aft side of the boat and the nuts are on the forward side of the
boat.
 >>> (3) there is a "dimple" in the aft side of the "mast beam". It is
 >>> located right under the mast step.
 >>> Any help would be appreciated. I have a water intrusion on the
port
 >>> side of the mast step, but do not know its extent but I am am
certain
 >>> that now is the time to fix it. The intrusion shows up in the
ceiling
 >>> of the head. There is some water dripping down the port side
salon
 >>> bulkhead. and a small drip in the port side of the v berth just a
few
 >>> inches inside the forward side of the v berth bulkhead.
 >>> I hope this makes sense. This is way beyond my skills and so I
need
 >>> any help I can get to give guidance to the pros who will do this
job.
 >>> Thanks for any help any of you can provide. I think the thing I
need
 >>> first is a good idea of how the liner boats are different from
the
 >>> stick built boats with respect to the way the mast is supported.
 >>> David, 432
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