[Public-List] A new engine adventure...Anyone using the engine water pump as a bilge pump?

[Michael Connolly via Public-List]

Clay, 
Definitely DO NOT leave the T to the bilge open.  Cuz when the bilge goes dry the engine will over heat. 
This set up is for emergencies only, like when the hull is holed and the bilge and or gusher pumps can't keep up with the inflow of water. 
  
The valve must work freely and be accessible.  You must be able to monitor the bilge while the engine is pumping it out.  If it can pump the bilge dry then it must be switched to raw water until needed to again to keep the boat from sinking. 
Michael #133 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Clay Pass via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
To: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:58:30 PM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] A new engine adventure...Anyone using the engine water pump as a bilge pump? 

Hi, I just bought #449, Janus, and this is the arrangement that is on my 
water intake except that a t-fitting leads to a shut-off valve that then 
leads to the bilge leg.  I haven't spent much time trying to figure it out; 
however it looks like there is no handle on the shut-off valve to open or 
close the leg to the bilge.  Do you think it is missing and needs 
replacement or is the leg to the bilge left open all the time? 

Clay 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List < 
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 

> That's good seamanship.   Your engine waterpump is a very good bilge pump. 
> 
> G 
> 
> On 2016-07-07, at 12:40 PM, Michael Connolly via Public-List < 
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > Hello all, 
> > I have seen folks install a "Y" valve in the raw water engine intake 
> line so the engine can be used to pump the bilge in an emergency. One 
> branch of the "Y" goes into the bilge the other to the raw water strainer, 
> then either goes to the engine for cooling with either bilge water or sea 
> water. Sounds cleaver, but wonder about practicality. 
> > Michael #133 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> > From: "Jonathan Bresler via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org 
> > 
> > To: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open 
> to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
> > Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:38:40 AM 
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] A new engine adventure... 
> > 
> > On the bright side its good to know that you have good flow into the 
> engine 
> > cooling jacket from the raw water intake. 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List < 
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Yep... 
> >> 
> >> On 2016-07-07, at 11:12 AM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Gord, 
> >>> 
> >>> Is this a drain plug you use for winterizing? 
> >>> 
> >>> Always exciting to have floating floor boards.... 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List < 
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: 
> >>>> Hello gang... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Last night being Wednesday, SURPRISE sortied from the club to do 
> battle 
> >> as 
> >>>> usual.  The air was very light and uncharactistically from the east, 
> so 
> >> that 
> >>>> put the start at the far end of our end of Severn Sound.  We motored 
> >> all the 
> >>>> way out, shut down and began the usual prestart jousting.   I¹ll gloss 
> >> over 
> >>>> the great start we had, how MAID MARION, our arch rival, tried doing a 
> >> tack 
> >>>> just before and never really got moving again in the very light air... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> So there we were gliding along with 0.7 knots showing on the knotmeter 
> >> and 
> >>>> laying the windward mark due to a huge lift right at the start.  I was 
> >>>> chuckling to myself when one of my crewmembers called to me Œhey Gord, 
> >> the 
> >>>> floorboards are floating¹. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sure enough, the bilges were completely flooded.  We quickly pumped 
> the 
> >>>> water out and marveled at how strong the batteries were despite the 
> fact 
> >>>> that they may have spent days under water 
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