[Public-List] Re powering my A30

Mon Jun 20 09:51:44 PDT 2016

It is very hard for me to understand why anyone would ever think of taking
out an Atomic 4 if it is basically in tact, no matter how warn it may be,
and replacing it with a 6 hp outboard with a 6" prop. The A30 is a
BEAUTIFUL boat and will remain active for many, many years with normal
maintenance. But to cut it up and put an outboard in the lazzarette
SIGNIFICANTLY changes the design and the value of the boat. It is a shame
to hear of one being modified like that. I say repair the Atomic 4 or
replace it with a diesel, with the first the better option. You can sail
that boat for many years and sell it with little or no loss, but with the
outboard your buyers will be very limited. Certainly no one who knows the
A30 would be interested.
The video of the mod showed very good workmanship, but to damage an A30 in
as good shape as that one appears to be is a major disaster. Think of the
man hours and materials (including the outboard) it took to do that job,
multiply by a decent hourly rate and that amount of money would buy 2
diesel engines. It doesn't even appear to have a long shaft and to think
that that engine is going to safely push a 10, 000 + pound A30 in a 20 + kt
breeze is wish full thinking.
Get a good mechanic to overhaul your Atomic 4 while you get on with the
many other repairs that are needed.
Rolph Townshend

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Allen LoCicero via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> About 10 years ago we purchased an Alberg 30 with an atomic 4. The motor
> literally had a hole in the head and other block problems.After research we
> installed a 9.9 hp Johnson on a bracket on the stern. I like the idea of
> being able to tilt the motor out of the water when not in use. Installed
> remote controls in the cockpit. Felt really good about what we
> accomplished. What was an added bonus was the additional storage
> space.Having said all of this we were pleased with the forward but
> there was almost no reverse. As someone mentioned earlier what are
> the conditions? If you have any wind from the stern you will not be able to
> depend on the outboard motor to impede you forward speed. We even tried
> changing the pitch on the prop with no help. We used this configuration for
> about a year or so then we installed a Beta 20.That was not easy task you
> have to change from fuel tank to exhaust. By the way love the Bata.
> Allen
>
>
>
>     On Monday, June 20, 2016 9:20 AM, Michael Connolly via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Greg,
> I agree with George. One can almost always rebuild for less than replace.
> If you can do any of the work, there is no question about it.
> James Baldwin in Brunswick, GA has done many out board conversions of
> Alberg 30's. I have seen his work, it is first rate.
> Several Alberg 30's have converted to electric propulsion as well.
> Michael #133................ always to be a Gray Marine Sea Scout gas
> engine on board.
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "George Dinwiddie via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:52:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Re powering my A30
>
> Greg,
>
> I'm curious about how you use your boat. It seems to me that the options
> you're considering have very different advantages and disadvantages.
> Diesels seem good for motoring long distances and outboards seem good
> for merely getting in and out of harbor in relatively settled weather.
>
> When you say "tired Atomic four," what's tired about it? Have you
> considered a replacement Atomic 4? (That's what I've just done.) They're
> not sexy engines. They won't go as far on fuel as a diesel, but I'm not
> motoring long distances. They don't seem as easily replaceable as an
> outboard, but they don't require cutting the hull (like hull #1 did) or
> crafting a bracket (like Yves Gelinas did) which runs up the cost and
> complication considerably. They are relatively reliable, long-lived, and
> simply repaired engines. I wonder why it's not on your list of
> considerations.
>
>   - George
>
> On 6/20/16 6:07 AM, Greg Dawson via Public-List wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> > I am in the process of refurbishing my A30. A job that requires
> > everything from bulkheads to sails. Recently I have been looking at
> > replacing the tired Atomic four. A secondhand Yanmar or a brand new
> > Beta. I'm either looking at something already old or paying out a lot
> > of money.
> >
> > One idea that has got me interested is installing an outboard in the
> > lazetette. Does anybody have experience of this? I don't think that I
> > need a large inboard and for the cost of the Beta I can pretty much
> > buy a new outboard, replace the worn sails & install a roller furling
> > jib.
> >
> > What do you think? Is there anybody who has done this conversion that
> > could comment?
> >
> > Greg
>
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