[Public-List] Re powering my A30

Mon Jun 20 11:04:47 PDT 2016

My two cents..
I just went through the "rebuild wars" after a PO did me the disservice of
threading a standard oil pressure sender into my metric block.  When all
the oil pumped into the bilge when the sender finally blew out, the engine
virtually destroyed itself so there wasn't anything to rebuild.  I bought a
tractor motor with the same block and used the old "marinization" gear to
convert it to a marine diesel.  It is a 3 cylinder 22-25 HP depending on
who you talk to and runs like a clock.  The total repair was around 6K.
Will I ever recoup that? Nope.  But the next owner will have a boat with a
proper motor.
I never considered an outboard for the above stated reasons - both
performance and cutting a beautiful boat to pieces.  I did look into
electric - the cost for a Thoosa was about 12K uninstalled.  I have since
seen numerous Yanmars and a couple of Betas for sale.  I also agree that
the rebuild of the "Automatic 4" may just be your best bet!

Wes
Griffin's Faith #196

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Hans Thomas via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> If you have a stern tube, exhaust, and tank in good condition then you
> already have a lot of the subsystems installed. Repair the a4 or add a lot
> of value and piece of mind with a diesel.
>
> I have a triton with an inboard yanmar. My first inboard boat. I was
> somewhat skeptical at first and would now never go back.
>
> Hans pearson triton "solitude"
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Jason S via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have a friend who has a Triton, as you know very similar to our A30s,
> he
> > put a 6hp on back. It pushed the boat well but....
> > After a few years I asked him how he like the outboard because I was
> > considering repowering.  He simply said, my next boat will have a diesel.
> > So I set out to find a diesel, after 4 or 5 months of searching I found a
> > low hour Beta 20 for less than a Moyer rebuilt A4. I missed out on a beta
> > 20 on ebay that had a buy it now price of $2500, and it was new in the
> > crate.
> > If you search and look around you can find a decent deal on a diesel.
> > On Jun 20, 2016 12:58 PM, "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree.
> >>
> >> Gord 426 Surprise.
> >>
> >> On 2016-06-20, at 12:51 PM, Rolph and Joan Townshend via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is very hard for me to understand why anyone would ever think of
> >> taking
> >>> out an Atomic 4 if it is basically in tact, no matter how warn it may
> be,
> >>> and replacing it with a 6 hp outboard with a 6" prop. The A30 is a
> >>> BEAUTIFUL boat and will remain active for many, many years with normal
> >>> maintenance. But to cut it up and put an outboard in the lazzarette
> >>> SIGNIFICANTLY changes the design and the value of the boat. It is a
> shame
> >>> to hear of one being modified like that. I say repair the Atomic 4 or
> >>> replace it with a diesel, with the first the better option. You can
> sail
> >>> that boat for many years and sell it with little or no loss, but with
> the
> >>> outboard your buyers will be very limited. Certainly no one who knows
> the
> >>> A30 would be interested.
> >>> The video of the mod showed very good workmanship, but to damage an A30
> >> in
> >>> as good shape as that one appears to be is a major disaster. Think of
> the
> >>> man hours and materials (including the outboard) it took to do that
> job,
> >>> multiply by a decent hourly rate and that amount of money would buy 2
> >>> diesel engines. It doesn't even appear to have a long shaft and to
> think
> >>> that that engine is going to safely push a 10, 000 + pound A30 in a 20
> +
> >> kt
> >>> breeze is wish full thinking.
> >>> Get a good mechanic to overhaul your Atomic 4 while you get on with the
> >>> many other repairs that are needed.
> >>> Rolph Townshend
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Allen LoCicero via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> About 10 years ago we purchased an Alberg 30 with an atomic 4. The
> motor
> >>>> literally had a hole in the head and other block problems.After
> >> research we
> >>>> installed a 9.9 hp Johnson on a bracket on the stern. I like the idea
> of
> >>>> being able to tilt the motor out of the water when not in use.
> Installed
> >>>> remote controls in the cockpit. Felt really good about what we
> >>>> accomplished. What was an added bonus was the additional storage
> >>>> space.Having said all of this we were pleased with the forward but
> >>>> there was almost no reverse. As someone mentioned earlier what are
> >>>> the conditions? If you have any wind from the stern you will not be
> >> able to
> >>>> depend on the outboard motor to impede you forward speed. We even
> tried
> >>>> changing the pitch on the prop with no help. We used this
> configuration
> >> for
> >>>> about a year or so then we installed a Beta 20.That was not easy task
> >> you
> >>>> have to change from fuel tank to exhaust. By the way love the Bata.
> >>>> Allen
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