[Public-List] furling gear and spinnaker halyard

George Dinwiddie via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Fri Jun 24 09:39:47 PDT 2016


Wes,

Is that U-bolt holding the spinnaker halyard? If so, what size is it?

And may I post this photo on the website?

   - George

On 6/24/16 12:30 PM, Wes Gardner wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here's a pic of my crane.  I just bought an asym that I'm messing with.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9yoye1486z6ywh/Spin%20Halyard%20Crane.jpg?dl=0
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
> wrote:
>
>     Gord,
>
>     Send it to me, also, and I'll add it to the website.
>
>      - George
>
>
>     On 6/24/16 11:45 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
>
>         Hello Hernan,
>
>         I do; will send tonight when I'm back in my hotel.   It looks a
>         little industrial; but its small and strong... And when it's 36'
>         up in the air it just looks like a little shiny thing ...
>
>         G
>
>         On 2016-06-24, at 11:40 AM, Hernán Scarnichia
>         <hernanscar at gmail.com <mailto:hernanscar at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Gordon,
>             Do you have any pics that you could post of your custom crane?
>             How did you attach it to the mast head?
>             Hernan
>
>             On Jun 24, 2016 6:41 AM, "Gordon Laco via Public-List"
>             <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>             <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
>                 I built a spin halyard crane for Surprise's halyard.
>                 Holds halyard block a few inches forward of the stay as
>                 is more normal in other classes. Works very well.
>
>                 Gord 426 Surprise.
>
>                 On 2016-06-24, at 10:34 AM, via Public-List
>                 <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>                 <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
>                     When we raced J Bergquist's Calliope with a racing
>                     Genoa on the foil, we led the spin halyard around
>                     the backside of the port side spreader, to a loop
>                     attached to the base of the turnbuckle. We could
>                     tension it up after cleaning up upwind. We never
>                     rolled the jib during sail changes.
>
>
>                     Mike
>
>                     Michael J. Meinhold
>                     meinhold272 at gmail.com <mailto:meinhold272 at gmail.com>
>                     / 301 852 0619 <tel:301%20852%200619>
>
>                         On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Jonathan Bresler
>                         via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>                         <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
>                         Charles,
>
>                         A halyard that is parallel to the forestay is in
>                         danger of being wrapped
>                         around the forestay by a roller furler.
>                         The forces can be great enough to break the
>                         forestay as Kris related
>                         above.  From what I've read, it appears
>                         that the halyard should be angled of 5 to 10
>                         degrees aft from the stay
>                         starting at the top swivel.  The "restrainer"
>                         should be attached to mast in order to achieve
>                         that angle.
>
>                         Brion Toss writes "A furler's halyard swivel is
>                         a wonderful device,
>                         enabling you to adjust halyard tension, even if
>                         the sail is furled. But it
>                         is also a tremendous Achilles heel, the source
>                         of the majority of the
>                         furler problems we see in our shop. For example,
>                         if the halyard leads too
>                         close to the foil, and especially if the halyard
>                         is slack, it can get
>                         caught up on the foil while you are setting or
>                         furling the sail. This is
>                         the terrible "halyard wrap" that can make it
>                         impossible for the furler to
>                         rotate, or for the sail to go up or down. And it
>                         can damage or destroy the
>                         foil, the wire, and the halyard. Accordingly,
>                         every manufacturer that has a
>                         halyard swivel is extremely emphatic on proper
>                         halyard lead and tension, as
>                         well as optimal swivel height. Particulars vary,
>                         but the general idea is to
>                         have the top of the swivel just a few inches
>                         below the top of the foil, and
>                         to have the halyard angled slightly aft from the
>                         swivel. Profurl handles
>                         both these details with their "Wrapstop", a
>                         Darth-Vader-Helmet-like object
>                         that clamps onto the top of the stay. Other
>                         manufacturers use "halyard
>                         restrainers" that clamp to the face of the mast,
>                         though increasingly spar
>                         builders are finally getting around to
>                         positioning jib halyard sheaves for
>                         an optimal furler lead, without the need for a
>                         restrainer."  (
>                         www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscnov03.htm <http://www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscnov03.htm>)
>
>                         Didnt see that the make of the roller furler is
>                         mentioned.   Constance has
>                         a Furlex.   Page 23 of the Furlex manual talks
>                         about the restrainer.
>                         (sailing.mit.edu/wikiupload/0/0b/Furlex_200S_Furler.pdf
>                         <http://sailing.mit.edu/wikiupload/0/0b/Furlex_200S_Furler.pdf>)
>
>                         Jonathan
>
>                         On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Kris Coward
>                         via Public-List <
>                         public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>                         <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
>
>                             Put a halyard restrainer on the front of the
>                             mast to help keep the jib
>                             and spin halyards clear enough of each other
>                             to keep this problem at
>                             bay. I figured this one out the hard way (by
>                             breaking the forestay with
>                             (jib) halyard wrap before putting the
>                             restrainer on--fortunately I was
>                             able to rig up the spare halyard as an
>                             emergency forestay before the rig
>                             got any ideas about falling over).
>
>                             -Kris
>
>                             On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 03:39:13PM -0400,
>                             charles pleisse via Public-List
>                             wrote:
>
>                                 Sookie has a spinnaker and most of the
>                                 associated gear.  It all seems to
>
>                             be
>
>                                 original to the boat.  Furling gear was
>                                 installed in the mid 80's.  I
>                                 believe the spinnaker hasn't been used
>                                 since.  I discovered why last
>
>                             year.
>
>                                 As many of you probably know, the
>                                 spinnaker halyard interferes with the
>                                 upper parts of the furling gear.  Is
>                                 there any way to rig a spinnaker
>                                 halyard on an original mast head that
>                                 will not interfere with the furler?
>
>                                 Charles Pleisse
>                                 Sookie #221
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