[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3215, Issue 2
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Sat Mar 12 16:29:22 PST 2016
I have never heard of this being a concern. I have a 1972 boat and if there are any issues with my keel I haven't been able to notice them. I have it hauled every year and have never seen anything to be concerned about.
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> 1. Iron ballast vs. Lead (Scott Abbott via Public-List)
> 2. Re: Iron ballast vs. Lead (Mike Meinhold via Public-List)
> 3. Re: Iron ballast vs. Lead (Jason S via Public-List)
> 4. Re: Iron ballast vs. Lead (Fraser Kittson via Public-List)
> 5. Re: Iron ballast vs. Lead (Gordon Laco via Public-List)
> 6. Re: Iron ballast vs. Lead (Gordon Laco via Public-List)
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> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:19:25 -0500
> From: Scott Abbott via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
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> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest to).
> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase of
> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take on
> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>
> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized in
> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the repair
> procedure and cost? Long term?
>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:24:29 -0500
> From: Mike Meinhold via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Scott Abbott <scott at abbottandco.com>, Alberg 30 Public List --
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
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> I would be interested in whether any of those who have participated in
> breaking an A30 were able to autopsy the keel, and determine the extent of
> corosion?
>
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Scott Abbott via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
>> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest to).
>> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase of
>> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
>> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
>> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take on
>> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
>> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
>> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>>
>> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized in
>> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the repair
>> procedure and cost? Long term?
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> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:58:20 -0500
> From: Jason S via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Ryan Martin via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Mike
> Meinhold <meinhold272 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
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> I have not dug into my ballast area yet. There are no signs of damage from
> outside of boat. In a few months I will be examining the top of the ballast
> and will report back.
>
> Jason
> #457
> Www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
> On Mar 12, 2016 4:24 PM, "Mike Meinhold via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in whether any of those who have participated in
>> breaking an A30 were able to autopsy the keel, and determine the extent of
>> corosion?
>>
>> Mike
>> Rinn Duin #272
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Scott Abbott via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
>>> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest
>> to).
>>> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase
>> of
>>> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
>>> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
>>> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take
>> on
>>> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
>>> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
>>> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>>>
>>> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized
>> in
>>> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the
>> repair
>>> procedure and cost? Long term?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>> Please support them.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:14:08 -0500
> From: Fraser Kittson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Jason S <kk4mex at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
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> I can attest to the fact that my 1978 Alberg 30 has a all lead keel
>
> Fraser Kittson
>
>
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Jason S via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have not dug into my ballast area yet. There are no signs of damage from
>> outside of boat. In a few months I will be examining the top of the ballast
>> and will report back.
>>
>> Jason
>> #457
>> Www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
>> On Mar 12, 2016 4:24 PM, "Mike Meinhold via Public-List" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested in whether any of those who have participated in
>>> breaking an A30 were able to autopsy the keel, and determine the extent of
>>> corosion?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> Rinn Duin #272
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Scott Abbott via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
>>>> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest
>>> to).
>>>> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase
>>> of
>>>> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
>>>> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
>>>> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take
>>> on
>>>> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
>>>> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
>>>> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized
>>> in
>>>> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the
>>> repair
>>>> procedure and cost? Long term?
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>>> Please support them.
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>>> _______________________________________________
>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>> Please support them.
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>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:54:37 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Scott Abbott <scott at abbottandco.com>, Alberg 30 Public List --
> open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
> Message-ID: <1B2631AA-581E-44AB-81A7-24D9AB153ED8 at csolve.net>
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> Hello there.
>
> I'm not aware of any osmosis issues in A30's
>
> Gord Laco #426
>
>> On 2016-03-12, at 4:19 PM, Scott Abbott via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
>> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest to).
>> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase of
>> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
>> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
>> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take on
>> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
>> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
>> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>>
>> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized in
>> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the repair
>> procedure and cost? Long term?
>> _______________________________________________
>> These businesses support your Association:
>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> Please support them.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Public-List mailing list
>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:56:20 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: Fraser Kittson <fkittson at bell.net>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open
> to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Iron ballast vs. Lead
> Message-ID: <E9BDB6E4-0457-4601-8254-049E14B817CE at csolve.net>
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> I'm astonished. How have you determined this?
>
> Gordon #426 Surprise.
>
>> On 2016-03-12, at 5:14 PM, Fraser Kittson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> I can attest to the fact that my 1978 Alberg 30 has a all lead keel
>>
>> Fraser Kittson
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Jason S via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have not dug into my ballast area yet. There are no signs of damage from
>>> outside of boat. In a few months I will be examining the top of the ballast
>>> and will report back.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> #457
>>> Www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
>>> On Mar 12, 2016 4:24 PM, "Mike Meinhold via Public-List" <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would be interested in whether any of those who have participated in
>>>> breaking an A30 were able to autopsy the keel, and determine the extent of
>>>> corosion?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> Rinn Duin #272
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Scott Abbott via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am in the market for a traditional sailor, and the Alberg 30 is such an
>>>>> amazing boat and with an incredible pedigree (as this crowd can attest
>>>> to).
>>>>> With that said, I have been focusing on Alberg 35's as a better purchase
>>>> of
>>>>> a 50 year old boat due to the 35's possessing lead ballast vs. The Alberg
>>>>> 30's iron ballast ( I read that one owner actually had one made demanding
>>>>> lead be used instead). I would be far more eager to own an A30 (and take
>>>> on
>>>>> the associated upgrading and maintenance that these boats require) if I
>>>>> wasn't already so concerned about 50 years of osmosis and it's effect on
>>>>> the keel and corrosion of encased cast iron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone address this concern, and if this has issue has materialized
>>>> in
>>>>> existing A30 fleet thus far? If so, how common is it and what is the
>>>> repair
>>>>> procedure and cost? Long term?
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>>>> Please support them.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Public-List mailing list
>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>>> Please support them.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> _______________________________________________
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