[Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang choice

Thu Nov 3 12:42:42 PDT 2016

What some of you who have dual purpose lines may want to consider are the 
consequences of that line breaking under load and what have you then?
Don

-----Original Message----- 
From: Wes Gardner via Public-List
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:58 AM
To: Mike Meinhold
Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all ; Bill McCoy
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang choice

I have my outhaul run to the cockpit...this has the added benefit of also
acting as a downhaul as the line runs forward from the outer end of the
boom to the underside of the gooseneck, turns down to a block at the base
of the mast and then runs aft.  When tensioning the outhaul, the sliding
gooseneck is also pulled down...I'm sure the racing crowd will look a
little askance at this but hey, it works.... I don't have either a
cunningham or flattening reef...

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Mike Meinhold <meinhold272 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am happy to stay old school with Gord. I just like my sliding gooseneck,
> even though I have to kick it to make it slide!
>
> Mike
> #272
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> I think many think that a sliding gooseneck is "old Skool" and that a
>> cunningham and flattening reef offer/better more shaping???
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I know people pound the table spilling each other's beer about fixed vs
>> > sliding goosenecks... I like mine to move on it's track.  Why?  I just
>> do,
>> > that's why.
>> >
>> > I don't think rigid vangs require fixed goosenecks.  Nor should they
>> impose
>> > higher loads than tackles...
>> >
>> > Gord #426 Surprise
>> >
>> > PS  Pim of WINDWARD and I are just back from the 2016 Misery Trip. 
>> > This
>> > year's expedition, although later in the season, was a sore
>> disappointment
>> > in that there was no misery.  We romped SURPRISE north out of Severn
>> Sound
>> > running and broad reaching touching seven knots on occasion getting to
>> our
>> > anchorage at Bone Island way too soon. We lounged and lay about all
>> > afternoon, had a good supper out in the cockpit under lights hung from
>> the
>> > boom, admired the stars, slept in comfort, woke up in a not 
>> > particularly
>> > chilly cabin, ate a hearty breakfast of scrambled eggs and sausage...
>> Then
>> > motored home in an incredible glassy calm in warm air.  Damn.  No
>> misery.
>> >
>> > I was thinking we'd have to go again in order to find the suffering we
>> were
>> > looking for, but my wife preempted that by volunteering to help me 
>> > strip
>> > down the rig in preparation for haul out Saturday.  So now it's too
>> late,
>> > we
>> > can't go again.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2016-11-03, 9:39 AM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
>> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Oh, the hard vangs MAY require a fixed point goose neck???  Mine is
>> still
>> > > on a track.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Here's mine...just a simple arrangement of blocks led back to the
>> > >> cockpit.  In fact it is was cobbled together by a PO use a mast bail
>> > and a
>> > >> boom bail.  It's the white line, the blue one is the tack line for
>> the
>> > asym.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
>> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Bill:
>> > >>>    I know of two Alberg 30's that have Garhauer vangs. Both are in
>> the
>> > >>> Canadian race fleet and the one is still in the box because the
>> first
>> > one
>> > >>> went on and tore the track off the mast that held the boom. 
>> > >>> Garhauer
>> > made a
>> > >>> bracket for the boom fitting so that that boom now does not move on
>> the
>> > >>> mast. As far as I know, Phil really likes his set up and I will
>> > eventually
>> > >>> get around to replacing the cloth vang I have, with the one in the
>> box,
>> > >>> once I figure out where to put the boom on the mast.  If you do get
>> a
>> > >>> Garhauer, make sure you get the mast bracket too. They are a small
>> > enough
>> > >>> company that they should be able to make the same one that was made
>> for
>> > >>> Gemini, # 362 and that was for the stock mast.
>> > >>> Don
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill McCoy via Public-List
>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:08 AM
>> > >>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> > >>> Subject: [Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang
>> choice
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> So Hull 614 is back in the water.  This time in South Carolina.
>> Photo
>> > at
>> > >>> link:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> [IMG]http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q763/Skeep575/DSC_0
>> > >>> 479_zpsy8voe1sf.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Update discussion threads on Boom Vangs.  I've read the old posts
>> about
>> > >>> these.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Questions for the hearty:  1) For the Alberg, is there a consensus
>> on
>> > >>> type vang, blocks or rigid styles?  I'm referring to any sort of
>> setup.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2) Garhauer was mentioned as supplying for Albergs specifically. 
>> > >>> Is
>> > this
>> > >>> still the case that they are tuned-in to our design for boom vang
>> > fitment?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks all,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> skeep
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Bill
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