[Public-List] Opening Ports
Wes Gardner via Public-List
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Sat Aug 12 18:40:39 PDT 2017
I'd be happy to write up what I know...I dry-fitted the gasket yesterday and after tonight's storm, I'll let you all know the results.
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> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Sound like an article for the Mainsheet!
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 6:33 PM George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> Wes,
>>
>> You are rapidly becoming the expert on this topic. It would be wonderful
>> for those who follow if you would write up what you know, illustrated by
>> pictures. If you do so, I'd be proud to turn it into a web page to post
>> on the website. There's no need to format anything. Just indicate in the
>> text which picture goes where.
>>
>> - George
>>
>>> On 8/7/17 7:17 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Additionally, I do have pics with dimensions that may be helpful to
>> others. I'll post those up soonest.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wes,
>>>> I was wrong. I couldn't not tell from your first photo. Most Spartan
>> ports are bronze. Many Wilcox ports are hot dipped galvanized. How big is
>> the light in the port? The original Alberg small ports are something like
>> 5-3/4" by 3- 1/2" for the glass only. I am just guessing the size. I can't
>> tell the size of your port with no scale in the photo. All original Alberg
>> ports in Salon and forward were aluminium framed.
>>>>
>>>> Are your port frames magnetic = hot dipped galvanized? Certainly you
>> can tell the difference between Bronze and Aluminum .............so there
>> goes it.
>>>>
>>>> I knew an owner who had the small original opening ports and they were
>> not much bigger than the fixed ports.
>>>>
>>>> I know David Terrell and the polished bronze ports on his boat were
>> ordered from New Found Metals. Not only will you need to be sitting down
>> but have an EMS standing by just in case it's the "big one".
>>>>
>>>> I do believe that your problem can be solved with new gaskets. There is
>> a guy on-line who makes replacement screens for most any port light.
>> Contact the editors of Good Old Boat mag. I believe that he has an ad with
>> them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> To: "Jeff Fongemie" <fongemie at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 11:10:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Opening Ports
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a better pic of the port...on Spartan's site, they talk about
>> bronze
>>>> which this is certainly not...I'll give them a shout to see what's up
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7g0bxo0f65rptcf/Opening%20port.jpg?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Wes
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey <fongemie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha! Spartan Marine? I'd sit down and maybe have a drink first!
>>>>>
>>>>> It does look good though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the responses...I will be sure to be fully seated when I
>> make
>>>>>> that call...I DO understand that quality gear isn't cheap!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Michael… Wes, I believe Spartan Marine will sell direct so you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> go to them rather than through a distributor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But… bronze ports are pretty much indestructible, so it’s worth just
>>>>>>> looking at getting new neoprene and that usually resolves any leaking
>>>>>>> issues. Quality gear is not cheap, but the benefit is that it
>> lasts,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> can be rebuilt or repaired rather than thrown away after a few years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We make jokes in our end of the marine business (traditional bronze
>> and
>>>>>>> galv iron… when people ask me what I do I say “if you want stuff
>> that’s
>>>>>>> heavy and obsolete, call me…”) that the main problem we face is that
>>>>>> bronze
>>>>>>> fittings last for centuries… once its fitted to a yacht or ship,
>> it’s
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the life of that vessel and the next four or five after her…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gord Laco
>>>>>>> #426 Surprise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-08-07, 9:50 AM, "Public-List on behalf of Michael Connolly
>> via
>>>>>>> Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of
>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>>> Your ports have been replaced with larger ones. Yours look to be
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Spartan Marine. They are still in business and will service your
>> needs.
>>>>>> Be
>>>>>>> certain to be sitting down when they quote you the cost. The original
>>>>>>> Alberg small Aluminum front ports were available as fix light or
>>>>>> opening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe that Gord Laco knows the Mfg. who is also still in
>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>> Again, be sitting down.........................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:40:58 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Opening Ports
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I crazy or were there opening ports as an option? And the
>> next
>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> is can I get replacements gaskets...one is leaking and of course
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> my bunk :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one to port (right side of the pic) is the leaky one, it
>> also
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> broken hinge and may not tighten down correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/og2tcxorebi7v33/V%20berth%20aft.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>> 196 Griffin's Faith
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