[Public-List] Opening Ports
George Dinwiddie via Public-List
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Wed Aug 23 15:45:41 PDT 2017
Wes,
What a great writeup!
I'm sitting at a bar in Columbus Ohio, sipping a happy hour cabernet,
and just converted it to a web page. See
http://alberg30.org/maintenance/HullDeck/OpeningPortGaskets/ for the
final result. As usual, click on the images for full-size.
- George
On 8/21/17 8:49 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just finished writing up my write-up on what I know about the care and feeding of opening ports...I'll try to assemble some pice to go along...
>
> Thanks for the opportunity.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 6:33 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> Wes,
>>
>> You are rapidly becoming the expert on this topic. It would be wonderful for those who follow if you would write up what you know, illustrated by pictures. If you do so, I'd be proud to turn it into a web page to post on the website. There's no need to format anything. Just indicate in the text which picture goes where.
>>
>> - George
>>
>>> On 8/7/17 7:17 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> Additionally, I do have pics with dimensions that may be helpful to others. I'll post those up soonest.
>>> Wes
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wes,
>>>> I was wrong. I couldn't not tell from your first photo. Most Spartan ports are bronze. Many Wilcox ports are hot dipped galvanized. How big is the light in the port? The original Alberg small ports are something like 5-3/4" by 3- 1/2" for the glass only. I am just guessing the size. I can't tell the size of your port with no scale in the photo. All original Alberg ports in Salon and forward were aluminium framed.
>>>>
>>>> Are your port frames magnetic = hot dipped galvanized? Certainly you can tell the difference between Bronze and Aluminum .............so there goes it.
>>>>
>>>> I knew an owner who had the small original opening ports and they were not much bigger than the fixed ports.
>>>>
>>>> I know David Terrell and the polished bronze ports on his boat were ordered from New Found Metals. Not only will you need to be sitting down but have an EMS standing by just in case it's the "big one".
>>>>
>>>> I do believe that your problem can be solved with new gaskets. There is a guy on-line who makes replacement screens for most any port light. Contact the editors of Good Old Boat mag. I believe that he has an ad with them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> To: "Jeff Fongemie" <fongemie at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 11:10:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Opening Ports
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a better pic of the port...on Spartan's site, they talk about bronze
>>>> which this is certainly not...I'll give them a shout to see what's up
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7g0bxo0f65rptcf/Opening%20port.jpg?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Wes
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey <fongemie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha! Spartan Marine? I'd sit down and maybe have a drink first!
>>>>>
>>>>> It does look good though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the responses...I will be sure to be fully seated when I make
>>>>>> that call...I DO understand that quality gear isn't cheap!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Michael… Wes, I believe Spartan Marine will sell direct so you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> go to them rather than through a distributor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But… bronze ports are pretty much indestructible, so it’s worth just
>>>>>>> looking at getting new neoprene and that usually resolves any leaking
>>>>>>> issues. Quality gear is not cheap, but the benefit is that it lasts,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> can be rebuilt or repaired rather than thrown away after a few years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We make jokes in our end of the marine business (traditional bronze and
>>>>>>> galv iron… when people ask me what I do I say “if you want stuff that’s
>>>>>>> heavy and obsolete, call me…”) that the main problem we face is that
>>>>>> bronze
>>>>>>> fittings last for centuries… once its fitted to a yacht or ship, it’s
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the life of that vessel and the next four or five after her…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gord Laco
>>>>>>> #426 Surprise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-08-07, 9:50 AM, "Public-List on behalf of Michael Connolly via
>>>>>>> Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of
>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>>> Your ports have been replaced with larger ones. Yours look to be
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Spartan Marine. They are still in business and will service your needs.
>>>>>> Be
>>>>>>> certain to be sitting down when they quote you the cost. The original
>>>>>>> Alberg small Aluminum front ports were available as fix light or
>>>>>> opening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe that Gord Laco knows the Mfg. who is also still in
>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>> Again, be sitting down.........................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:40:58 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Opening Ports
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I crazy or were there opening ports as an option? And the next
>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> is can I get replacements gaskets...one is leaking and of course
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> my bunk :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one to port (right side of the pic) is the leaky one, it also
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> broken hinge and may not tighten down correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/og2tcxorebi7v33/V%20berth%20aft.jpg?dl=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>> 196 Griffin's Faith
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