[Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.
George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
Fri Dec 29 13:26:47 PST 2017
Gord, I don't recall getting that.
The info on lines was in the collaborate section, which lost the battle
with spammers. The attacks were threatening the whole website. It's
archived at
https://web.archive.org/web/20101212054448/http://alberg30.org/collaborate/RunningRigging
- George
On 11/27/17 1:14 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
> I’ll send you my rigging schedule off line... George, did I ever send that to you?
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
> On 2017-11-26, 9:54 PM, "Public-List on behalf of Wehicks via Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> I know this is off subject and I apologize but I can’t find a list of all the lines size and length on the website. I have seen it some where but I have looked for 2 hours and can’t find this info. Help
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Michael Connolly via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ah!.................I got the Ultra High part right. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Paul Wilson via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: "Paul Wilson" <dcmcrider at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 12:39:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.
> >
> > Ultra-High Molecular Weight polyethylene.
> >
> > Paul
> > SLAINTE #129
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Michael Connolly via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> What is UHMW? Ultra High Mashed Wastepaper?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: "Andrew Johns via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>
> >> Cc: "Andrew Johns" <johnsab9 at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:19:02 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.
> >>
> >> A UHMW washer may also be a good choice. A bag of them is just a few
> >> dollars an will not wear the rudder stock.
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2017 11:57 AM, "Chris Martin via Public-List" <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>> If you are really going full ADD on this, like I have been known to do,
> >>> this should work https://www.mcmaster.com/#93490a007/=1adrho9
> >>> On Thursday, November 23, 2017, 11:18:42 AM EST, Jonathan Bresler via
> >>> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Haven't seen any. Have telfon tape and telfon based lubricants.
> >>> But its a good idea! MSC Direct seems to have something that might
> >>> fit
> >>> Seem to recall that the tiller head bolt is 3/8", at least I used a 3/8"
> >>> drill bit to drill the aluminum to fit the bolt.
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan
> >>>
> >>> https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/?searchterm=teflon+
> >>> shim&hdrsrh=true#navid=4287872381&searchterm=teflon+shim&lh=n
> >>> Made in USA - 3/8 Inch Screw, 0.39 Inch Inside Diameter, 0.875 Inch
> >> Outside
> >>> Diameter, 0.062 Inch Thick, Flat Washer - PTFE, Uncoated, 0.057 Inch Min
> >>> Thickness, 0.395 Inch Max Inside Diameter
> >>> <https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/05404330>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Mike Lehman via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why not a thin piece of teflon
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 23, 2017 11:01 AM, "Jonathan Bresler via Public-List" <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gord, Thank you. Was afraid of that the corrosion issue would rear
> >> its
> >>>>> ugly head.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bronze washer idea sounds worthwhile looking into. No problem
> >>>> having a
> >>>>> washer on one side only...not an aesthetic issue for me. Might be
> >> hard
> >>>> to
> >>>>> find one
> >>>>> thin enough. Currently there are four layers of beer can shim stock
> >>>> which
> >>>>> might be
> >>>>> 0.065mm thick each layer or 0.26mm total. That's pretty thin. Seems
> >>>> that
> >>>>> there is
> >>>>> phospor bronze shim stock available in a suitable thickness from
> >>>>> Lyonindustries
> >>>>> http://lyonindustries.com/?page_id=9 . They even have an assortment
> >>>>> 6" x 12" assortment contains one piece of each of the following
> >> sizes:
> >>>>> .005, .008, .010, .013, .016, .020, .025, .032
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gord, how about phosphor bronze ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jonathan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.beveragecan.info/en/inform-me/advantages-of-cans/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Spoken like a true pommy. Eh?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 22, 2017 10:06 AM, "Michael Connolly via Public-List" <
> >>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now wait a minute. All folks know that Canadian beer is far
> >>> superior
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> anything made in the states............................
> >>>>>>> Jonathan,
> >>>>>>> I have solved this issue on several boats using bronze washers.
> >> The
> >>>>>> rudder
> >>>>>>> head and tiller fitting on our boats should be bronze. A washer
> >> on
> >>>> just
> >>>>>> one
> >>>>>>> side is fine. If you are finicky about this you can pare down the
> >>>>> washers
> >>>>>>> so there is an equal number on each side and the tiller is
> >> centered
> >>>> so
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> speak. Yes I have been known to do that.
> >>>>>>> BTW a bit of grease on the washers helps to hold them in position
> >>>>> whilst
> >>>>>>> aligning them for the bolt.
> >>>>>>> Happy driving..................oh and Thanksgiving!
> >>>>>>> Michael #133
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.
> >>> org>
> >>>>>>> To: "George Dinwiddie via Public-List"
> >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.
> >>>> org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:23:31 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, you’re guaranteeing corrosion damage, and the aluminium is
> >> too
> >>>>> soft
> >>>>>>> to last long in that application.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A permanent cure would be to build up the inside bearing surfaces
> >>> of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> rudder head with brazing, then grind and sand it down to fit. Not
> >>>>>> difficult
> >>>>>>> to do, but this will be a lasting solution.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gord
> >>>>>>> #426 Surprise
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2017-11-21, 8:12 PM, "Public-List on behalf of Jonathan
> >> Bresler
> >>>> via
> >>>>>>> Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf
> >> of
> >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Got tiller wobble, The metal H shaped section connecting the
> >> tiller
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> rudder head fitting does not fit as tightly as I would like.
> >>> Initial
> >>>>>>> movements of the tiller take up slack then finally start to move
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> rudder. Decided I needed to do something about this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Obtained two pieces of top shelf aluminum shim stock from the
> >> side
> >>>> of a
> >>>>>>> Heinekin beer car. Folded the two pieces in half. Trimmed the
> >>> pieces
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> match the height of the H fitting and a similar length. Drilled a
> >>>> 3/8"
> >>>>>> hole
> >>>>>>> in the center of each of the two. Installed one shim on each side
> >>> of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> rudder head fitting between the rudder head and the tiller H
> >>> fitting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Went sailing today. Comparatively NO wobble. Nice tight response.
> >>>>>>> Shouid have done this a while ago. Hoping that the aluminum shim
> >>>> stock
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> softer than other metals, bronze for the rudder head, and
> >> steel(?)
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> H fitting. Would be happy to replace the shim stock every year in
> >>>> order
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> prevent wear of the other parts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thoughts? Am I risking corrosion damage?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jonathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> P.S. Stole the idea of using beer can shim stock from Robert
> >>> Pirsig's
> >>>>>>> _Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance_. Hard to believe
> >> that
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> book
> >>>>>>> is forty-three years old now.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
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