[Public-List] Edson Tiller head

Jonathan Bresler via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Fri Mar 3 02:32:59 PST 2017


Crazy idea: once the bolt that passes through the tabs at the end of the
tiller head wears against the bolt holes in those aft end tabs, enlarging
the holes.  Would it be possible/useful to overdrill the bolt holes in a
single pass from the outside of one tab all the way to the outside of the
other tab, perhaps by a 1/16", and insert a tube of metal that the same
length as the distance from the outside of one tab all the way to the
outside of the other tab, or perhaps a smidge shorter.  The bolt would pass
through the tube, the bolt would wear on the tube, the tube would bear on
the newly drilled holes.  Perhaps a real tight fit of tube to bolt hole
would protect the tabs from wear due to the tube or the bolt.  Have
machinist do the work so that the tube to overdrilled bolt hole fit is very
very tight.

Jonathan

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Much of the problems of the tiller head wear arise because skippers hold
> the tiller too high. If the arms of the H bracket on the tiller are held
> above the tiller head, then all the torque is on the tabs and bolt holes at
> the aft of the tiller head and this torque is too much for the bronze. Two
> things happen, first the tabs bend and second the bolt hole gets bigger and
> therefore play develops.  Once there is play in the bronze holes,  things
> go from bad to worse.  Thus, hanging on to a tiller while standing is not a
> good idea. Try to keep the tiller low in the cockpit. This can be helped
> with a tiller extension that allows for control at a much higher level
> while keeping the H bracket on the tiller head. At least that way, the key
> in the shaft takes most of the torque.
> Don
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Gwyn via Public-List
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 6:13 PM
> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> Subject: [Public-List] Edson Tiller head
>
>
> Hi,
>
> No I haven't contacted Edson yet. I haven't decided if I want to fight for
> a refund or an exchange. The fundamental design is flawed however.
> All the pressure is on the bolt and the holes it goes through. In the old
> one,
> the pressure is on the inside of the arms of the tiller part pushing on the
> sides of the part attached to the rudder stock. I'm going to take it to
> a machinist who has looked at in the past. He suggest welding on material
> and the machining it back to fit, but suggested that since it would cost
> almost as much as a new part, I might as well buy a new part.
>
> SG
>
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Jonathan M Bresler
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