[Public-List] Battery and electrical system

Thu Mar 16 11:43:45 PDT 2017

Mike,

If it isn't too much trouble could you send me a copy of your wiring
diagram. As for batteries I was using 2 dual purpose marine batteries(group
27).  I wasn't pleased with the results and after discussing  this with
manager at Batteries Plus I went back to a Starting battery and a deep
cycle battery.

Jim Allocco

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> I folllow this approach to the boat -  do one piece at a time -  if you try
> to do it all you may never sail the boat.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chris Martin via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Good advice as usual.
> > I am a bit overwhelmed by a complete rewire too. Instead, I'm replacing
> > things in sections. First, new battery cables. Then main fuse panel.
> > Then.... havent figure it out yet. Might not work for all, but I can
> tackle
> > it in pieces when I have time. Best part to me is knowing each project is
> > complete and helping me better understand the boat.
> >
> >       From: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >  To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>; Alberg 30 Public List --
> > open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >  Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:04 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [Public-List] Battery and electrical system
> >
> > PASCO is great for starter and alternator rebuilds, ask for Nick. I buy
> my
> > batteries (Duracell Marine Deep Cycle group 27) at Sam's club and they
> last
> > 7 years on average, and we have refrigeration on our Alberg. Tim, you may
> > have a wiring problem. The original wire used by Whitby is lamp cord and
> is
> > prone to corrosion which cause high current loss and draw. Change it all
> > with Anchor marine wiring and up the gauge. I created a wiring diagram
> for
> > the Alberg 30 that I will send to you. The job is really simple and the
> > wiring on an Alberg is not complicated, but as we add electronics,
> > auto-pilots etc. more circuits are required.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > If the starter is a chronic problem, I'd pull it and get it rebuilt.
> > Chris
> > > Oliver turned me on to a place called Pasco on West Street, 2023. Seems
> > > like a bunch of good folks, they bench checked my alternator for free.
> > Too
> > > bad Mamock's Motor Electric went out of business...
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:49 PM, Rod Symmes via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Banging on the starter to get it to work could also be due to
> sticking
> > > or worn out brushes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,  Rod
> > > >
> > > > -------- Original message --------
> > > > From: Michael Grosh via Public-List
> > > > Date:15-03-2017 9:13 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > > > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all , Tim Peek
> > > > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Battery and electrical system
> > > >
> > > > You have a few non related issues. Banging on the starter probably
> > means
> > > > the delco gear is not sliding freely. A couple of bolts frees starter
> > > from
> > > > mount and some wd 40 and a scotchpad works wonders.
> > > > You sail regularly with autopilot? (I mean non motoring). That's a
> > pretty
> > > > good electric drain, I much prefer to hand steer under sail, but I
> > would
> > > > think with deep cycle batteries that would be manageable. GPS
> > constantly
> > > on
> > > > probably adds up on battery draw also-it's on my list, but is it
> > _really_
> > > > necessary for Chesapeake Bay? Anyway, changing to an electronic
> voltage
> > > > regulator would allow you to charge your batteries 10-15 minutes,
> even
> > > > after several days battery drain.
> > > > Alberg30 OE wiring is problematic. It's household lamp cord. The good
> > > news
> > > > is the wiring harness is primitive, so tracing out and replacing is
> > not
> > > > complicated.
> > > > Two deep cycle batteries really should keep you in electric for a few
> > > days,
> > > > especially with 30 watt solar input. Myself, I have tried every
> > > combination
> > > > of battery and now just go with cheap walmart jobs that I alternately
> > > > replace.every 2 years.
> > > >
> > > > Michael Grosh
> > > > #220
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 15, 2017 6:04 PM, "tmthypk at gmail.com via Public-List" <
> > > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have two questions about my battery and electrical systems. Last
> > summer
> > > > as I spend most of it working out various problems when I went, the
> > > > electrical issued was a constant plague of problems and really just
> > hope.
> > > > Prior to one substantial fix, at one point I was banging on the start
> > > with
> > > > a hammer to get the engine to start. Had to quickly drop my anchor in
> > the
> > > > channel entering the Magothy River! that was exciting.
> > > >
> > > > The first is my need to buy a battery or batteries for my house
> bank. I
> > > > have two batteries right now which a marina had put in for me when I
> > was
> > > > fixing up Nevermore. They are Interstate, dual purpose marine/RV
> > > batteries
> > > > that have just simply gotten me by. I would like to keep the one as
> my
> > > > starting battery, but I need more capacity for a house bank. My goal
> is
> > > to
> > > > have the capability to be able to go cruising for up to a week or
> so. I
> > > > would like to not have to run the engine every day, or limit that.
> > Right
> > > > now I have a 30watt solar panel and my electric load isn't all that
> > high
> > > as
> > > > I have all LED lights. I think the most consuming is the GPS/depth
> > > sounder
> > > > and the Tiller Pilot. What are people's experience or
> recommendations?
> > I
> > > do
> > > > not want to modify anything and plan to keep the batteries banks
> where
> > > they
> > > > are above the keel.
> > > >
> > > > The other question I have, is I believe I really should re-wire
> > > everything
> > > > that is in there now. I don't think what I have going on right now is
> > > > efficient or even safe. I have very basic functional knowledge/skill
> > > level
> > > > with this. For me to to start over and do it correctly is a little
> over
> > > my
> > > > head even after all the reading I have done on it. My boat is on the
> > > > Magothy (across from PSA) and I am hoping I could borrow someone's
> > > > afternoon or evening for some real advice and perspective;
> compensatory
> > > > beers or dinner would be assumed.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all!
> > > >
> > > > Timothy Peek
> > > > Nevermore #219
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