[Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.

Jonathan Bresler 262alberg30 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 23 08:00:59 PST 2017


Gord,  Thank you. Was afraid of that the corrosion issue would rear its
ugly head.

The bronze washer idea sounds worthwhile looking into.  No problem having a
washer on one side only...not an aesthetic issue for me.  Might be hard to
find one
thin enough.  Currently there are four layers of beer can shim stock which
might be
0.065mm thick each layer or 0.26mm total.  That's pretty thin.  Seems that
there is
phospor bronze shim stock available in a suitable thickness from
Lyonindustries
http://lyonindustries.com/?page_id=9 .  They even have an assortment
6" x 12" assortment contains one piece of each of the following sizes:
.005, .008, .010, .013, .016, .020, .025, .032

Gord, how about phosphor bronze ?

Jonathan

http://www.beveragecan.info/en/inform-me/advantages-of-cans/

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Spoken like a true pommy. Eh?
>
> On Nov 22, 2017 10:06 AM, "Michael Connolly via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Now wait a minute. All folks know that Canadian beer is far superior to
> > anything made in the states............................
> > Jonathan,
> > I have solved this issue on several boats using bronze washers. The
> rudder
> > head and tiller fitting on our boats should be bronze. A washer on just
> one
> > side is fine. If you are finicky about this you can pare down the washers
> > so there is an equal number on each side and the tiller is centered so to
> > speak. Yes I have been known to do that.
> > BTW a bit of grease on the washers helps to hold them in position whilst
> > aligning them for the bolt.
> > Happy driving..................oh and Thanksgiving!
> > Michael #133
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > To: "George Dinwiddie via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:23:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller wobble and possible fix.
> >
> > Yes, you’re guaranteeing corrosion damage, and the aluminium is too soft
> > to last long in that application.
> >
> > A permanent cure would be to build up the inside bearing surfaces of the
> > rudder head with brazing, then grind and sand it down to fit. Not
> difficult
> > to do, but this will be a lasting solution.
> >
> > Gord
> > #426 Surprise
> >
> > On 2017-11-21, 8:12 PM, "Public-List on behalf of Jonathan Bresler via
> > Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Got tiller wobble, The metal H shaped section connecting the tiller to
> the
> > rudder head fitting does not fit as tightly as I would like. Initial
> > movements of the tiller take up slack then finally start to move the
> > rudder. Decided I needed to do something about this.
> >
> > Obtained two pieces of top shelf aluminum shim stock from the side of a
> > Heinekin beer car. Folded the two pieces in half. Trimmed the pieces to
> > match the height of the H fitting and a similar length. Drilled a 3/8"
> hole
> > in the center of each of the two. Installed one shim on each side of the
> > rudder head fitting between the rudder head and the tiller H fitting.
> >
> > Went sailing today. Comparatively NO wobble. Nice tight response.
> > Shouid have done this a while ago. Hoping that the aluminum shim stock is
> > softer than other metals, bronze for the rudder head, and steel(?) for
> the
> > H fitting. Would be happy to replace the shim stock every year in order
> to
> > prevent wear of the other parts.
> >
> > Thoughts? Am I risking corrosion damage?
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > P.S. Stole the idea of using beer can shim stock from Robert Pirsig's
> > _Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance_. Hard to believe that the
> book
> > is forty-three years old now.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan M Bresler
> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > Annapolis/Eastport MD
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